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Peerless?

 



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Austin i think?

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Definitely Austin, 17th Bn Tank Corps 1918

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Landships article on it here:

http://www.landships.info/landships/car_articles.html?load=car_articles/Austin_British_Use.html

 



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Not Peerless - that used a truck chassis that was somewhat longer than the armoured body, so the chassis rails stuck out at the back. It was a post-war vehicle, afaik Pattern 1919.

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Is that a chock dangling from the rear of it?

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Rob wrote:

Is that a chock dangling from the rear of it?


 Looks like one to me although I'm not sure what they'd need it for I assume the Austin had a parking brake?



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What sort of flag is that ?

stange design of the tyre surface !

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gemsco wrote:

What sort of flag is that ?

stange design of the tyre surface !

gemsco


 I think this is Russian "Prowodnik-Columb" tyres - last model of 1917 (typical "Prowodnik" later profile). Austin/4 built for Russian army, because Revolution, was in Russia no comming.



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I'd say Ivan is correct. Looks like a match to me.

And wouldn't the flag be the Tank Corps flag?



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No, the tyres don't match - although there is similarity. The ones Ivan has pictured show a number of chevrons (about 7) pointing in one direction, then another batch pointing the other way, then another change, etc.

The tyres in the original photo have an "X" then a solid diamond-pattern, then another "X", another diamond, etc. Quite possibly the same manufacturer or nationality, but a different tread pattern.

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I agree with TinCanTadpole athough they're similar the Russian tyres don't have the same tread pattern. I've seen that alternating diamond/X pattern on quite a few of my Western Front soft skin pictures, I'll see what I can dig out.



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Here's a couple I found at short notice!

 

Take a look at the off side front on the Daimler and the N/S/F on the Napier ambulance to the far left of the second picture. 



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The Napier is difficult to be sure of - I think it has yet another pattern! Looks like chevrons turned through 90 degrees, with left and right sides pointing in opposite directions and interlocking as they overlap. Clearly there were a lot more variations in tyre tread at that time than one would have imagined, so it may be difficult if at all possible to identify.

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I've been playing with the brightness and contrast on the Napier picture but the pale grey tyre is so bleached out it's hard to say for sure... it could well be a different pattern though.

Digging through my Austin armoured car pics pretty much all of the later types have those pattern tyres... oddly enough most of the Russian Austins have tyres with transverse grooves



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Austin 2nd "Kavkazez" (last photo) has British "Dunlop" tires. But many "Austin" was in Russia to "Prowodnik" unasked because "Prowodnik" was much better.

The tires are Advert Type 1912-1916. The tire type called "Almaz" = in Russian it's "diamond". The tires of the picture above could (not necessarily, it's just conjecture) new "Prowodnik" his type. Of which I have unfortunately no Adverts.

Austin 2nd is here in Russia with "Prowodnik-Columb" type "Almas" (diamond) tires - front & "Treugolnik" tyres - back.



-- Edited by Ivan on Saturday 15th of December 2012 01:15:14 AM



-- Edited by Ivan on Saturday 15th of December 2012 01:20:06 AM

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I think we have a winner... Clincher tyre ads from 1916 and 1917.



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Excellent find, Bernie.

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