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What a Heath-Robinson contraption!

One survived in 1939, I assume it was scrapped shortly after, unless anyone knows where it is?

http://derela.republika.pl/austin2.htm



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He was in the Modlin Fortress, also Izhorsky FIAT stood there. When the Germans came, they have sunk both vehicles in Wisla. They were never found.



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I have a request if anyone can help. I have spent days looking and have had no luck.. The Austin-Putilov Kegresse was constructed on the English Austin Armored car chassis type 3, with a Austin 4 cyl (37?- 3kw) 50 hp , gasoline, liquid cooled engine. I have all ready sent a request to Austin of GB and got back a link to Google that shows all the stuff I all ready have looked at..no luck there! I can figure out to some extent what the frame would be, from a single shot of the under carriage I could find and using the top view I think I can create a chassis that will be close...I NEED a picture of the engine! any thing will do,,I know it will be left side exhaust, and simple but I need a picture to create one ! Anyone have such a beast?

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RSEhlers wrote:

I have a request if anyone can help. I have spent days looking and have had no luck.. The Austin-Putilov Kegresse was constructed on the English Austin Armored car chassis type 3, with a Austin 4 cyl (37?- 3kw) 50 hp , gasoline, liquid cooled engine. I have all ready sent a request to Austin of GB and got back a link to Google that shows all the stuff I all ready have looked at..no luck there! I can figure out to some extent what the frame would be, from a single shot of the under carriage I could find and using the top view I think I can create a chassis that will be close...I NEED a picture of the engine! any thing will do,,I know it will be left side exhaust, and simple but I need a picture to create one ! Anyone have such a beast?


 No! Only first Austin-Kégresse Austin was rebuilt from Austin English 2nd Series - 1916.

This is "Russian Austin": English chassis and Russian body (project of Staff-Captain Haletzky and Company of Poutiloff Works), built in the years 1919 to 1920 only 12 units in Petrograd. All Austin-chassis for armoured cars used by model type 50 HP, but engines were 30 HP, 4 Cylinder.

 

First picture - chassis Austin for Russia. Second - his 30 HP engine. I have Russian instruction for Austin Armoured car.



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Thanks so much for the pictures of the chassis and engine...and I think we are talking the same thing I maybe just got the chassis numbers mixed up..but I did know that Austin was only able to ship out the chassis and engines and the Austins became the Austin-Putilov (Ostin-Putilovets) but I did not know that they had dropped the engine size from the 50hp to the 30hp..

I like the idea that the Kregresse system was so easy, to use just by (basically) taking off the rear tires and bolting on the track system, I have started a large collection of Kregresse data and am in the process of trying to build a detailed model (Interior, engine, chassis...) of the Austin-Kégresse and of course most of the information I need in the form of pictures...I have not been able to find (YET) or does not exist! but here are some from an old documentary..

Thanks again..and anything you may find I would appreciate recieving!



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Are you trying to build a scale model, if so which scale, if 1/35th try ARMO @ www.jadar.com.pl as I made one a few years ago.

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RSEhlers wrote:

Thanks so much for the pictures of the chassis and engine...and I think we are talking the same thing I maybe just got the chassis numbers mixed up..but I did know that Austin was only able to ship out the chassis and engines and the Austins became the Austin-Putilov (Ostin-Putilovets) but I did not know that they had dropped the engine size from the 50hp to the 30hp..

I like the idea that the Kregresse system was so easy, to use just by (basically) taking off the rear tires and bolting on the track system, I have started a large collection of Kregresse data and am in the process of trying to build a detailed model (Interior, engine, chassis...) of the Austin-Kégresse and of course most of the information I need in the form of pictures...I have not been able to find (YET) or does not exist! but here are some from an old documentary..

Thanks again..and anything you may find I would appreciate recieving!



-- Edited by RSEhlers on Saturday 30th of March 2013 04:39:46 AM


 There are enough good pictures and Austin-Kégresse, you simply must have good contacts with Russian colleagues and learn to read Russian books. There is far too much hute publications on the work of Adolphe Kégresse in Russia.

So easy system was not!

 

P.S. The Company of Poutiloff Works has never called his armored car "Putilovets" - the silly Soviet historians have written. Only one thing Austin-Kégresse was called "Poutilovets". He and a other - "Ukrainets" were captured by Polish troops 1920th



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Yes Lancer, but not a resin or rather not a kit but card model. I'll be converting the Austin-Putilov Armored Car by Andriy Romanchuk in 1/43 scale card model here on LandshipsII , to a Austin-Kégresse interior and all ( I know its a MAD idea ) the scale is a strange one I would prefer 1/25 but with Andriy's model it comes in a B/W version also, I know also that it could be scaled up to 1/25 but my printer has been giving me a hard time lately ( never prints what is clearly printable in the preview correctly) rescaling and rearranging on 8.5x11 and all the other things that could go wrong , maybe later...all the track system will be scratch built except a few things I drew up and scaled in Inkscape. I do have a copy of GPM's Austin-Putilov in 1/25 but I would have the same problems of scanning removing the writing and printing again...so  Ill just go slowly nuts doing all this in 1/43rd it will be fun to say the least!



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I wish I had some good contacts! A shame I will never get to visit there are some pictures I would like to have, as well as those books you mention! I was watching this 
Avtomobili v pogonakh, Documentary, 2009
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOjIiiDw6xg&list=PLFA246DCDA3F27F5F
and there are several great shots of the Austin and the Kégresse in action!



-- Edited by RSEhlers on Sunday 31st of March 2013 07:23:16 AM

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van can you please send me the pdf version of the instruction manual you have?

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mustafa931 wrote:

van can you please send me the pdf version of the instruction manual you have?


 No, sorry, it is too exclusive.



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