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James H


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If I have done this right, of which there is no guarantee, you should be able to see the museum's collection of models, in a variety of scales, of pre-1919 vehicles here.

Some accompanying notes:

Many are dotted around the museum in showcases, and they seem to be 1/72 or thereabouts. Sorry the reflection of the glass is a bit of a problem in some. I asked if one of the cases could be opened, partly to get a reflection-free shot, and partly because some of the labels had fallen to the bottom of the case, but it seems that Colonel Dubois has the only key and was elsewhere, organising the model exhibition. A bit of help identifying certain things would therefore be appreciated, especially the "big wheel" contrivance that looks like a huge basket. Much of the other stuff is familiar, I think.

There is also an upstairs gallery with a great many 1/72-ish models in cabinets, and AFAIK I got all the pre-1919 ones.

Many of the Great War machines are by a local man who left his collection to the museum. I think some of the pre-WWI stuff might be Paul Malmassari's work. Any info welcomed.

I'll make a start on captioning the pics. Pls let me know if you can add any identification, need any info, or would like larger images of anything.

Here goes.

 



-- Edited by James H on Friday 24th of May 2013 09:08:01 AM

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Parfait James, you have mastered it. Can't find anything on the jolly green dynasphere (or dynosphere) or monoroue which is an idea about as old as the treadmill - but haven't looked much.  This chap didn't find it (or perhaps shuns the bellicose) and unfortunately his link "le site historique référence de la monoroue (site en anglais)" has gone "404" which, on the internet, is more fatal than a 303.  But wait - there is life after death, in the Wayback Machine, see an archived copy - unfortunately I haven't time to look at the detail.

Ah, I can't help myself - from that archived copy, it is the THE GYRO-ELECTRIC DESTROYER: 1918 as depicted on the cover and described on page 666 (strangely apposite) of The Electrical Experimenter, an American magazine (which the author seems to think explains much).  He dismisses it as "Clearly an artist's fantasy rather than a serious project," on a number of grounds, including the apparent inability to steer the thing.  He could have a point though I'm supposing, from the looks, that the drive motor could traverse a fairly large extent the axle which might(?) impart some degree of gyroscopic/precessional turning moment.  One would need to read the article.  Clearly the gunners in the axle gondolas would be past caring in any event.  I would model it if could.



-- Edited by Rectalgia on Friday 24th of May 2013 02:14:47 AM

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Cool. The helmet vehicle looks nice.

Does anyone know what this thing is?
http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/Hengistu/media/Musee%20des%20Blindes/MS15_zps45e18041.jpg.html?sort=3&o=17

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Brilliant, JH, thanks for those!

The Perinelle-Dumay landship (a design from around 1918 to 1921 titled 'The Tank of 1933'), the model Morgoth refers to, certainly looks like Paul Malmassari's model (1/72) from his article about the project.

EDIT: Just noticed JH's last post, he obviously has the magazine with the P-D article so the above is pretty redundant.



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Well done, Rectalgia. It rang a very distant bell, but you have put your finger on it. See below. This is also a most interesting site: http://airminded.org/2009/11/29/the-superweapon-and-the-anglo-american-imagination-iii/

The long thing on what look like three Pedrail tracks is the Perinelle-Dumay machine. https://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/ww1nut1918/Picture0232.jpg Courtesy of Tim Rigsby.



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Rectaglia what you want is the "Museum of Retro Technologie" very interesting site... actually one of my favorites some crazy stuff there but the motorcycle monowheels are great, recently appeared in MIB3 but as SFiction rather the SFact...

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I find it interesting that some people were still trying to push the holt-tractor based tanks when the French have already saw the error of their ways in 1916 and their later heavy tank projects such as 25 tonne Saint-Chamond and FCM 2C were trapezoid.

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Ironsides wrote:

Rectaglia what you want is the "Museum of Retro Technologie" very interesting site... actually one of my favorites some crazy stuff there but the motorcycle monowheels are great, recently appeared in MIB3 but as SFiction rather the SFact...

Cheerssmile

Thanks mate, his new site bookmarked.  Some great stuff (pictures) in Dark Roasted Blend too, one of my favourites (start from "Categories" down the side-panel).



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Some intriguing designs there, on the mag covers and the model in Roger's post. The twin-wheel might have worked - at least it would be steerable; the tank-for-1933, though - how on earth could that have turned? Did they expect the hydraulic jacks to lift it up, after experience of all the mud in WW1? Hmmm...

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