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A popular online encyclopaedia says that this weapon was adopted by the French Army. I can't find any evidence of it. It was taken up by GB, as we know, and the Belgian Cyclists and some Belgian cavalry regiments had small numbers of them, but I haven't seen any LMG in French hands until the Chauchat.

Can anyone throw any light on it?



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Do they mean the Hotchkiss M1909 machine gun/ M1909 Benét–Mercié 8mm, also manufactured in Great Britain as the Hotchkiss Mark I and adapted to take the 303 round.



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Yes. AKA the Hotchkiss Portative.



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Not that I can see, even the cavalry seem to have used the heavy tripod mounted MG,

which is shown mounted in various improvised ways in various manuals the only "french"

Portative is a photo in a 1922 version of an english manual, but these look like they may

be Belgian troops...

French infantry Hotchkiss Portative.JPG

Certainly its not listed or described in any of the numerous french manuals that I have

where the CSRG is the main automatic assault and initial defence weapon in an attack...

This is likely because the portative could not be carried or fired from the hip...

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Ah. Here's a very interesting statement. Only 700 made and used only in the forts at Verdun and in some aircraft. Never issued to the infantry. Very convincing, although no references.

http://www.maquetland.com/article-phototheque/2300-hotchkiss-mitrailleuse-portative-mdel1908-1913-par

 

 

Not really relevant, but odd, is that one of the inventors was called Benét, with an accent on the second "e". That's unnecessary - it would be pronounced the same way without it. And it's not a misprint. Strange.



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Bonjour James,

The British Hotchkiss Mk1 was used, on some airplanes, by the French Air Force and also, at the end of the war, on the French Mark V*

                          http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pages1418/aviation-1914-1918/mitrailleuse-hotchkiss-identifier-sujet_1379_1.htm

Bon week-end - Michel



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Merci encore, Michel.

(Nous sommes lundi.)



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