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Post Info TOPIC: Tank Joy Rides, Southend on Sea 1920


Hero

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The red circle and blue square is correct. The building behind the man is this one... Street View

 



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And I've just noticed the blue square is neatly positioned to the top of the football ground (you can see the western stand).  As I said, the question is whether all of that area was used or just the part up to the entrance - I suspect all of it.



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Oh ok see what you mean. Zooming in and looking at what photos we have of the Tank in operation, plus the 'Two Acres' mentioned in the advertising program... it is a good fit for the area I have coloured red. I've also also enhanced it slightly so you can see how rough the ground is there compared to the more maintained ground where the Train Ride is to the left.

Hope that helps

Helen x

 



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Willem Visser wrote:

Looking closer at the new pictures from Shawn I noticed two things. I hace seen mystery brackets at the early Joy Rides mark IV. A question about it was placed elsewhereon the forum.

Another thing I noticed..... On the left hand side there is a piece of the upperside that looks like an emergency-exit. Looking at the picture from Shawn I noticed that the emergency-exit has some sort of railings attached. Look at the picture: in red I have marked them. Any ideas about their purpose? Emergency exit or anything else?

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Willem


I assumed that the riders got at the rear and got off at the front, via the gate arrangement you have highlighted.  If you examine the photos with the sign in place (and the model) suggests that part of the carriage body (not sure of the right term) is slightly different that shown in this photo.  Obviously there would need to be some sort of mobile stairs or gantry to line-up with the gate.

It's a pity that there are no photos of the riders getting on and off, though I suppose there might be some in private collections?

jh



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Hello Helen and Alan.

Great information on the location. It is now clear where the tank was making it's joy-rides! Thanks.

And Helen: that could realy be the tank in that picture. The black thing pointed out with the fence-like structure on top.

It is standing next to a little building and that brings me to the point that John makes.

That could be the building from which the passengers leave the upper structure. Or enter....?

And John, ...... I also wish for pictures of people climbing up the stairs or entering or leaving the upper structure of the joy-rides tank.

Maybe someday they will end up here........ I will keep watching.

Thank you all for the input, I have to do some extra work on the model and make a choice on the basic color.

Best regards,

Willem



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Runflat, that map is very useful because it identifies the apparent track marks I saw in the air photo, in the northwest of the Kursaal compound, as a narrow gauge railway - which means the tank would be most unlikely to drive around over that line at least. Also, the loops look too narrow to be easily done by a Mark IV anyway, which I should have remembered.

So I agree, the tank seems to be driving around the northeast corner of the Kursaal compound as Willem suggested. They look a bit like old wartime allotments (allocated to people for growing vegetables in a time of food shortage) in the April 1920 aerial photo but I am not sure if they had them during the Great War as much as in WW2 (where they had a lot in Britain anyway). The tank can't have chewed them up very much in that photo?

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First class sleuthing everyone, especially Helen - I'm in total agreement with 'L' shaped plot she's identified. The enhanced photo of it shows a reasonably rugged course. You can just imagine day-trippers and the fine folk of Southend having their sensibilities tested. Now to find a view of the booking office...

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Thanks guys x

Local History is more my thing than tanks to be honest... Portsmouth in my case... but it's interesting to look at another place for a change.

This is the Pathe News reel and stills of the Tank Ride.

It doesn't really add much but might be of help in your impressive model build.

Helen x

 



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Willem Visser wrote:

And Alan, ........
so there is a number 1 postcard and a number 3 postcard ...... see the numbers in the left corner at the bottom.
Any chance that you might have the number 2 postcard in your collection?

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Willem


Hi Willem

Great work on the model, I am hoping to build one myself at some point.

Postcard No. 2 was on Ebay a few months ago

Regards

Steve

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Willem Visser wrote:

And Alan, ........
so there is a number 1 postcard and a number 3 postcard ...... see the numbers in the left corner at the bottom.
Any chance that you might have the number 2 postcard in your collection?

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Willem


 Hi Willem

 

Great work on the model!

 

Postcard No. 2 was on Ebay a few months back, here's a copy that I grabbed.

 

Regards

Steve

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Steve! Thanks!
That is a great find.
So the postcard collection may be complete now. 😊
Best regards,
Willem

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Willem Visser wrote:

Steve! Thanks!
That is a great find.
So the postcard collection may be complete now. 😊
Best regards,
Willem


My pleasure Willem!

This is a subject that I have been interested in for some time now, ever since I saw a small photo of the joy ride tank in one of David Fletcher's books. Unfortunately I have not found much information until now, thanks to this forum! 

At least with this new postcard we can confirm the road outside the fence is Woodgrange Drive, the house with the distinctive turret roof is still there today  

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5353566,0.7272559,3a,75y,272.9h,93.53t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKz8ZkkQpn03dCSrYhskvRQ!2e0!5s20140601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Steve

 



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A great find by Richard Bartrop ...

see here: http://landships.activeboard.com/forum.spark#comment-63738477

So there is a good view of the "emergency-exit" and the fake left side gunemplacement. I have to redo some things about my model.

Thanks Richard!

Best regards,

Willem

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Hello
It seems too that between the pictures a little accident happened on the front pad eyes for the towing point....
The last picture in the post is showing it intact ...look at the first ones of the post : the lower pad eye is torn off , no more schackle
Olivier

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Yes indeed, the tank has seen "some action" in Southend on Sea
The towing point got bent and a little towing shackle was attached at the upper end.

Wonderful how many info and pictures still surface after all these years.
The last picture made me do some surgery to my model........

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So, a new picture surfaced....

New and better insight into certain parts of the tank.

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After I saw the picture this morning I cut the left upperpart of the upperdeck of the tank apart and made it new from pieces of wood. The glue is still wet..... As is the wetter outside, so very good modelling conditions.

The "emergency-exit" is now as on the known pictures. This second picture mad it totally clear. It must have been like a tow-bridge that is lowerd when near some building. You can now clearly see the railings along the planks that keep the passengers from falling of the bridge while stepping over. 

The second thing that was now clear is that the stairs at the back were closed at the underside. So not the way as I earlier made it. That was fixed with some extra wood at the underside.

Now letting it dry and then some cleaning up.

Best regards,

Willem

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Amazing work Willem!

Looking forward to the next update!

Steve

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Thanks Steve!

Between building other models I started painting the Mk IV.

After a base coat of Chaos Black I made a mix of some Tamiya paints. Every color is possible with this one so I chose a color that has something of green and brown..... confuse

After the first paintlayer I started with a wash of oil paint (burnt sienna). Next step will be further detailpainting and weathering and some old-school dry-brushing.

This is as it looks now:

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Willem, that is one incredible well done model   !!

the color of the tank and the wood .. is so realistic !!

 



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What a great little project. Very likely the first ever scale model of this set up!

Gary

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