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Willem Visser


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I just read the book by mister Rolls about his wartime life as driver of a Rolls Royce armored car and later a driver of a Rolls Royce tender. That tender was made by taking of the armor of his armored car as i understand. Looking through the internet i do not get a good idea about how a "stripped" Rolls Royce armored car looked like. Can anyone give a direction where to look on the internet or maybe a book that gives me a clue?

By the way, interesting book and easy to read. I especially liked the stories that were also in TE. Lawrence seven pillars of wisdom but then from another perspective.



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To make my question clearer .... was this a former armored car?

so stripped of armor and new seats installed? (From website of RR: T.E. Lawrence in a RR tender)

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-- Edited by Willem Visser on Tuesday 18th of July 2017 04:38:15 PM



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The car in your photo is "Blue Mist," a tender converted directly from a early civilian bodied Silver Ghost in Egypt rather than from a armoured car chassis.  It lacked the reinfored frame and suspension upgrades of the armoured car chassis and could not carry as heavy of a load.  As result it typically traveled light and was therefore faster, which was why Lawrence prefered to travel in Blue Mist when the situation allowed.  Here is an interesting article on Blue Mist:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/07/prweb14472745.htm

I will follow up shortly with information on the RR tenders dervived from armoured cars.

MarkV



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Apart from civilian-bodied cars that served more-or-less intact, there appear to have been two types of tenders converted from armoured cars during the First World War.

Straight-sided box tender

The top edges of the box body on these cars are straight and there is fixed seating only for the driver.  As I have found more than a dozen historic images of these cars I believe this type to have been the most common.  They appear in photos dating from July of 1916 in North Africa and also appear in photos taken in the Hedjaz and Palestine through 1918.  Identifiable cars include LC^356 "Columbine" (Squadron 3 RNAS), LC^304, "Royal Oak", and LC^34? (with Lawrence in the Hedjaz).  

 

Curved-sided box tender

The top edge of the box body has a curve on the sides and there appears to have been a bench seat in the front for the driver and passengers.  I have found five images of this type of car.  They appear in photos dating from 1916 in Egypt/North Africa.  Identifiable cars of this type include LC^295 and LC^303.  One photo identifies the unit as the Duke of Westminster's.

 

PS - I tried to post images but the forum software kept kicking it back as "Your post is too long. Please shorten it." until I eliminated all of the images.  It has taken me two hours and one internet crash to post this much-abbreviated reply.   This has been an incredibly frustrating experience.  It has been some time since I last attempted to make a detailed posting here and if anything this posting board software has gotten worse over the years.  It is no wonder postings have tapered off both in number and content.

MarkV

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Willem Visser


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Thanks MarkV,
thanks very much for the answer and I have send you a message.
Best regards,
Willem


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@Markv

have you ever received my message?

hope to hear from you,

Willem



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Willem,

You might find this resource interesting, Rolls-Royce Armoured Cars and the Great Victory, it's in pdf format and contains some material on the tenders. Go to http://digital.hagley.org/20120308_RollsRoyceArmoured

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Thanks dave, much appreciated!

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