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Gents,

Does anyone know the armored car from photos 2 & 3? http://www.landships.info/landships/car_articles.html?load=car_articles/Early_German_Cars.html

Is it really German? Or foreign? Or foreign, but captured by the Germans? Is it possible to say which country is the crew from? What type are the machine-guns?

Cheers,

Albert

 



-- Edited by Albert on Friday 22nd of September 2017 06:25:35 PM

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Albert wrote:

What type are the machine-guns?


 

OK, I think the MGs are Madsens.



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Albert wrote:

OK, I think the MGs are Madsens.


 

The crew look a bit Russian to me, but I was thinking the MGs might be Berthier 1908 or 1911. Which doesn't help.



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James H wrote:
Albert wrote:

OK, I think the MGs are Madsens.


 

The crew look a bit Russian to me, but I was thinking the MGs might be Berthier 1908 or 1911. Which doesn't help.


 Thank you James, you are right, the MGs look more like Berthiers than Madsens!



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Albert, I don't know if you can read French, but this article is very interesting: http://fr.1001mags.com/parution/gazette-des-armes/numero-84-jui-aou-1980/page-34-35-texte-integral

Amongst other things, it says that, although a French design, the Berthier is better known in and was manufactured in Britain and Belgium. The man top left in the article appears to be wearing a Belgian uniform, probably cavalry. At bottom right you can see the dangling pipe which was part of the cooling system and can also be seen on the guns in the armoured cars.

I wouldn't stake my life on it, but I think they're Berthiers. 



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James H wrote:

Albert, I don't know if you can read French, but this article is very interesting: http://fr.1001mags.com/parution/gazette-des-armes/numero-84-jui-aou-1980/page-34-35-texte-integral

Amongst other things, it says that, although a French design, the Berthier is better known in and was manufactured in Britain and Belgium. The man top left in the article appears to be wearing a Belgian uniform, probably cavalry. At bottom right you can see the dangling pipe which was part of the cooling system and can also be seen on the guns in the armoured cars.

I wouldn't stake my life on it, but I think they're Berthiers. 


 James, you're a genius! smile



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It's very good of you to point that out.

This suggests that the armoured cars are Belgian and in some way connected, but I cant get any further. The Berthier was tested by the US in 1917, I gather.



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