Landships II

Here is a postcard from my collection. The Austin Mk I in russian service 1915 in action (Galizien).

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huhncc wrote:

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Thanks Ivan. Very cool! I assume if it did happen it was more than likely on the eastern front. Of course, then you have the RCW.

Chris

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Oh, yes. I collect pictures from automoile and armoured cars (also motorbikes, racrors, tanks - all transportation) from Russian Empire ca 30 years, in my PC I have more as 10000 pictures. From Eastern Front I have all armoured cars: Garford-Poutiloff, Austin Mk I, Mk II, Mk III, Russki Austin ("Русскiй Остинъ" is correct name = "Russian Austin", new time name - Austin-Poutiloff and Austin Kégresse half trac), Packard-Poutiloff. Also first russian tanks (armoured tractors Allis-Chalmers-Poutiloff/Gulkewitsch). I have picture of first little tank of the world - Porochowsschikoff "Vezdekhod" ("Allroad") from 1915, built in Russia. From Izhorsky Work I have Pierce-Arrow, Renault, Berliet, White, Russo-Baltique (Russo-Balt), Mannesmann-MULAG,  Jeffery-Poplavko, Izhorski FIAT (chassis of American-FIAT 55 Truck), Packard, Pierce-Arrow and armoured cars of projekt from Mgebroff - Renault, Russo-Baltique, White, Benz, Isotta-Fraschini. The armoured cars from Obukhovski Work (Mercedes, Hansa-LLoyd), from Batoljuboff & Nekrassoff (Russo-Baltique, Renault), fro Porokhosschikoff (Ford). Anti-airkraft guns - armoured Russo-Baltique-Poutiloff and unarmoured Russo-Baltique-Poutiloff and White-Poutiloff, captured German Daimler-Krupp and Ehrhardt..., three-wheels armoured and little four-wheels armoured cars from "Oficer Shooting Scool" (Filatoff and Uljatovski), from "Automobil Scool" Renault-Wondljarewski and more.
Also imported armoured cars as Austin, Armstrong-Whiteworth-FIAT 15, Armstrong-Whiteworth-Jarrot, Sheffield-Simplex, Army Motor Lorries, Renault, Lanchester, Rolls-Royce, Peerless, Ford...
Also from belgian and english legions i Russia,..., also british tanks from Russian Civil War - Mk V, MK B, Mk A "Whipped"..., also estonian and finnish armoured cars...
The "Tzar-Tank" also (§Tzar-Tank" is new name, uncorrect, right name is Lebedenko "Netopyr"!!!)
First piture is a photo, from the photo maked my postcard :)
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MarkV wrote:

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Ivan,

That sounds like an impressive collection. What photos do you have of the Rolls Royce Armoured Cars in the Russian Empire and later in the USSR? I've only come across four photos of the Rolls Royces in Russia, two photos that are virtually identical showing the right side of an armoured car in the snow in Tiraspol, one photo from the Austrailian War museum reportedly taken in Russia (although judging by the soldier in short pants in the photo it looks more like the Middle East to me), and one very fuzzy image of a Roll Royce amid a crowd of other Red Army military vehicles in Dnepropetrovsk.

Have you found any other photos of the Rolls Royce Armoured Cars in Russia that you'd like to share?

I'd also like to learn more about the service of the Rolls Royces in Russia after the war. I believe that at least two of them were abandoned there by the departing British "Russian Armoured Car Division" in early 1917. I have been wondering what became of them.

Mark

-- Edited by MarkV at 21:11, 2007-03-23

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Hi MarkV, here are all my pictures of english Rolls-Royce from Eastern Front (Turkish and Romanian front) and one from Red Army (all english armoured cars was captured 1918 from Reds). The photos are stolen from internet and scannned from old russian books/magazins, another from russian archives.
I have also pictures of english Lanchester, Pierce-Arrow and Ford T armoured cars in Russia.
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Hi Ivan,
           I would like to know if your pictures of the Lanchester are from the internet or from a source of your own. If they are from your own sources I would like to see them Please.

   Paul

Paul Bonnett wrote:

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Hi Ivan,
           I would like to know if your pictures of the Lanchester are from the internet or from a source of your own. If they are from your own sources I would like to see them Please.

   Paul

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Hi Paul, I din't know more, i remember no, over my pictures. Nor all from internet, more from old russian magazins scanned. Here are all Lanchester my from Eastern Front (belgian, captured german and british).

Others Lanchester in Russia, british and russian.
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this is an amasing collection

could you post some of the garford putilov photos that you have?

Paul Bonnett wrote:

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Hi Ivan, Many Thanks for sharing your pictures with us. I have not seen many of them before and they show some great details. Do you know if any armoured cars from this period have survived in Russia - museums or such.
Thanks again
Paul

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Paul, it survived only THREE original russian armoured cars - one FIAT Izhorski and two Russian Austin/Poutiloff. All stand in military museums in Moscow. One Russian Austin with name "Vrag Kapitala" was from St. Petersburg as tribune of Lenin 1917. It's no correct, this car built in 1919. Today stand in Mocow revolution-museum with new colour. Second Russian Austin of 1918 stand by St. Pepersburg (in Kolpino) in terran of Izhorski Work .
By cinema-procuced in Russia will maked two or three replicas of FIAT and Austin.

ah thank you for the photos,
the polish garford has a neat camo!

i built a 1/35 model of GromoБОЙ

do you happen to know anything about garfords being used by the Romanians and the Mongolians? ive read about both cases but no photos, also what about some of the remaining garfords that were used in 1941?

thank you!

Ivan,

Could you please post your photos of the RNAS Ford Model T Armoured Cars used by Locker-Lampson?

Ivan wrote:

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Paul, it survived only THREE original russian armoured cars - one FIAT Izhorski and two Russian Austin/Poutiloff. All stand in military museums in Moscow. One Russian Austin with name "Vrag Kapitala" was from St. Petersburg as tribune of Lenin 1917. It's no correct, this car built in 1919. Today stand in Mocow revolution-museum with new colour. Second Russian Austin of 1918 stand by St. Pepersburg (in Kolpino) in terran of Izhorski Work .
By cinema-procuced in Russia will maked two or three replicas of FIAT and Austin.

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Russian Austin "Vrag kapitala" (The enemy of capital) stays in St Petersburg in Military-historical museum of Artillery, Engineer Troops and Intercommunication Troops. Fiat stays i Moscow in Museum of Russian Army.
In 1967 10 (!) replicas of Fiat were make for Military Parade in Moscow for 50 years of October Revolution. As far as I know, one of them use military-historical club.
One replica of Austin was display in Norilsk in 1987.

About a year ago I found a modern coloured photo of a parade/re enactment with an original Austin armoured car or a very good replica. The 'soldiers' were all wearing the original version of the Red Army uniform (the one Trotsky introduced). The one thing that jarred was they had a horse pulling the Austin! I think I posted it somewhere on this forum (in which case its probably lost for ever). Can't remember if it was an attachment (in which case I might have filed a copy) or a link. I'll look later.