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I've just read that the Mk V and V* Tanks used by the US in France were all  hermaphrodites. Is that right?

Having just had another look at previous posts, I form the impression that quite a large number of British vehicles were fitted out as hermaphrodites. Anyone any details?

-- Edited by James H at 10:54, 2008-06-19

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Some but not, I think, all the tanks with the 301. It would be nice to have figures as to how many tanks were composites but these do not seem to exist

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Hiya

In addition to machnes with US 301 I've come across wasr diary evidence of Composites/Hermaphrodites with 10 and 15 Bns, and there may be more tucked way in my notebooks.

Mike Cooper

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In the Book "treat 'em rough" is the following:

A Company: 9 MkV* Males, 2 MkV* Females, 4 MkV* Composites (or Hermaphrodites)
B Company: 7 MkV* Males, 2 MkV* Females, 3 MkV Males, 1 MkV Female, 3 MkV Composites
C Company: 7 Mk V Males, 9 Mk V Composites.

All Mk V equipped with fascines.
There were 47 heavy tanks with 1 Renault FT-17 for HQ use. A radio Heavy tank was added before 301 first action.

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I should have known that. Is that info in the second half of Treat 'Em Rough? I bet it is. The first half is highly entertaining, especially the part about US industry's total failure to produce any Tanks, but every time I try to read the second half I get fed up with the tedious detail it goes into and decide to do something else instead.

Thank you, Simmers. I shall make an effort this time.

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That radio tank was a MK V* It was first in action at Brancourt 8th Oct 1918From an account of a later action it was armed (but as male, female or  composite I don't know) and could transmit whilst on the move (quite an advance from the old Mk I wireless tanks). It seems likely that the exta space in the MkV* allowed a radio and operator room without compromising the tank's fighting capability.

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I have a copy of a document from The National Archives at Kew comparing the wireless installation in a Mark IV with that in a Mark V (not a V*). On balance, that in the Mark IV was preferred. This was because in the Mark V it was mounted centrally at the rear and got bashed around a lot. In the Mark IV it was mounted and operated in a sponson, and this combined with the lower speed of the Mark IV meant it had the benefit of a smoother(!) ride.

There were disadvantages. In the Mark V the aerial was run out the back, whereas in the Mark IV it was run out the side, and was often interfered with as a result. But on balance the Mark IV was considered better.

Gwyn

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Gwyn Any chance of posting a copy? Does it say what it means by aerial run out and interfered with?
I wasn't aware that there was any real difference between the speed of a MkIV and a Mk V (but the MK V* would probably be slower because of the increased weight) The US radio tank does appear to have been a Mk V*

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Thanks Centurian for the info on the 301 Radio tank. Unfortunately I don't think there is any info in the book on what type it was.

James H...yes that info was in the 2nd half of the book. I was interested in noting it down as there was a War Office suggestion that Australia provide troops for an Australian manned Tank Battalion. It never eventuated but I was curious as to what types of vehicles it would be equipped with. The US 301 looked like a good model. Unfortunately the book does not go into soft skinned vehicles etc that go along with a Tank battalion at the time.

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Centurion wrote:

Gwyn Any chance of posting a copy?
-- Edited by Centurion at 16:10, 2008-07-17



No can do I'm afraid.  It would be a breach of copyright and I'd stand to lose my Reader's Ticket.

I'll have another look at it and see what further information there is to answer your questions.

Gwyn



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The 301 Radio Tank was commanded by Major Ralph Sasse. He was awarded the MC for an action at Brancourt 8th Oct 1918

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