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d_fernetti


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Is there any kit of a 1/72 bicycle? I know that Preiser and Airfix (in one of their figure sets) have 00 scale bikes, but I wonder if there is any on true 1/72 scale. If not, is there any drawings for period bicycles that are pertinent to any warring country? Perhaps all bicycles were more or less the same? What kind of equipment would a signaleer bring on them?

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Hi
Have a look on the Hannants site Flightpath UK item FHP7201B-Airfield Cycles.
I have bought a set its etch with lots of detail (take some happy pills first!!!!)
BJ

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The national army museum told me in reference to a query a year or so back that purpose-built military bicycles were a fairly late innovation.

I've got a couple of photos of one of my great-uncles and his unit (2/1 Derbyshire Yeomanry) as bicycle troops on home defence in 1916. If you want I can try to blow up the bicycle details for you?

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Thanks for the responses!
Baldwin:
The PE bikes look nice, but would it be wise to use flat pieces for the frame? It calls for some sprue or wire scratchbuilding, but the PE spokes and gears sure can't be beaten.
AndiS:
Sure I'd like to see the photos of your great-uncles!

If military bicycles were made by civilian specs, I suppose that German, French, Belgian and Russian bikes were more or less the same?

-- Edited by d_fernetti on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 04:12:07 PM

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If you are using flat PE components which need to have a rounded appearance, it is possible to build up the shape using a slow-setting epoxy resin, or a mixture of epoxy resin and oil paint. This can be applied, (carefully!), and warmed to flow slightly and give a more realistic contour. It works well on such small items as handwheels, and the etched set would benefit from the technique for the frames and bicycle seats.

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d_fernetti wrote:




If military bicycles were made by civilian specs, I suppose that German, French, Belgian and Russian bikes were more or less the same?

-- Edited by d_fernetti on Tuesday 23rd of June 2009 04:12:07 PM




Here are a few photos of Belgian soldiers with bicycles. I suspect the collapsible bikes were "purpose-made" for use by the Carabineers.

John

 



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d_fernetti


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Wonderful selection. Seeing a batallion of ciclysts charging must have been quite a sight! smile.gif

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nice photos
re belgian bicycles
The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used

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Thank you CDR for the info on Belgian bikes. Although I have a few photos of Belgians with bikes, I know very little about what bikes the Belgians actually used. In some of the above photos, I am not even sure if the bikes are military issue or simply a photographer's prop.

John

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The only thing I can add to what cdr & jagjetta say above is that some of the Belgian Carabiniers (the gents with the Corsican hats) were designated as Cyclists in, I think, 1903. I haven't been able to find out any details of the Belgica. They seem to have worn either the Corsican or the conical Undress Cap, which had no peak - the former must have been very difficult to cope with while pedalling a bike. In 1911 or thereabouts they became a separate Battalion and were issued with a new peaked cap - like the existing Undress Cap but with peak and chinstrap. That looks like two of them in jagjetta's pic 4th from left in the top row.

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Typical Russian bicycle of 1WW "Dux Bpoyevoj" (Dux-fighting), msde by "Dux" J. Meller, Moscow.

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Russian Empire, 1892.

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2/1 Derbyshire Yeomanry in Wingham, Kent during 1916 - presumably on home defense duties. They were converted to a bicycle unit when their horses were needed for the 1/1 battalion in Mesopotamia.

derbyShireYeomanry1.jpgderbyShireYeomanry2.jpg

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Ivan wrote:

Typical Russian bicycle of 1WW "Dux Bpoyevoj" (Dux-fighting), msde by "Dux" J. Meller, Moscow.


Gorgeous restoration, Ivan!

 



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re the cap of the "carabinier cyclistes" This regiment used what they called a "chapki" this is the conical green and yellow cap This came with a detachable peak (so easily lost) !

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I did some digging through my photos this weekend and came up with a couple of images of French soldiers with bicycles.

John

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d_fernetti


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Wow! Cool pictures! I like the medic on wheels. God addition for an aerodrome diorama.

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Russian Empire. Tzar Nikolas II on a bicycle.

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He said "I want my car back"
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Here's something of interest:
http://www.archive.org/stream/nsillustratedwar04londuoft#page/10/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/nsillustratedwar04londuoft#page/11/mode/1up
Note the odd frame shape of the French military model, it's on Page 11 (the second link).
D.

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Hi all,

some bikers in action on the eastern front.

regards Kieffer

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cdr wrote:

The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used


Hi Carl! This will do you good: I remember the Flandria! bikes, don't know if the company still exists. The picture:bicyclists on a rest near Aalst.

 



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Sorry, something went wrong, saved the thing as an xcf. New try:


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Bikes were used heavily by the German cavalry in the 1914 campaigns.  The organization of each cavalry Korps included a Jager Btn; one of whom's companies was  bicycle mounted( about 150 men ). 

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This is an old tread,  but wanted to add this pic.   It is one of the better examples in my collection.   Hope all enjoy.

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Very nice images on show here - thanks to all contributors for sharing!

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Hat is doing some belgian bycyclists in 1/72nd (I think that ws part of the original question?)
https://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/figdude/03/AAtemp2/ww1belgianb.jpg

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d_fernetti


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Here's something of interest: an Italian folding bicycle! Lots of period and actual colour pictures.
http://www.oldbike.eu/museum/bianchi-military-folding-bicycle-model-1912/

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kieffer wrote:
cdr wrote:

The original type was a folding bicycle (from the firm Belgica) In 1908 a bicycle (acathene) without chain was introduced (?) During the war BSA bicycles were used


Hi Carl! This will do you good: I remember the Flandria! bikes, don't know if the company still exists. The picture:bicyclists on a rest near Aalst.

 

Still going strong!



 

 



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