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James H


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Video of M1917 Running and Gun Fired.
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Not sure if this is new. The commentary is perhaps best avoided. And it's not an FT as stated. Anyone know where this vehicle came from?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPkMn158Fwo

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Hmm ..... as far as I remember this is part of a biger video. I have bought it in USA as a VHS tape years ago.

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Thoroughly enjoyed that. Thanks for postin'.

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Just noticed something odd. This is an M1917, but it's started with a crank handle. I thought the M1917 had an inboard electric starter. Have I misunderstood?



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I think the tank has been modified for an external crank - you're right - the original Buda engined M1917 had an electric starter. The Renault FT was cranked

from inside the tank - the position of the crank on the tank in the video would not be possible with a tail fitted.

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Curious. There are lots of illustrations of the FT showing the crank handle in situ at the rear of the vehicle, on the outside, even with the tailskid fitted. The vehicle in the clip certainly seems to be a M1917 hull - as well as the exhaust being on the left, the armour around the driver's faceplate slopes M1917-style. The tailskid is hinged to allow the crank starter (which shouldn't be there) to operate. This is all a bit higgledy-piggledy. Can anyone i.d. the tank? Is it a restored vehicle that has been cannibalised?



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Definitely an M1917. Couple of thoughts occur:

could the original M1917s have had both an electric starter and a crank? Or

maybe this is not the original engine?



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Early cars that had electric start also tended to retain provision for hand-cranking, if memory serves; I think electric starting was first introduced to cars in 1912, possibly by Cadillac - so when the M1917 came along around 1918, it would still be early days and a back-up system would have been beneficial.

If you look at the M1917 article on Landships II, you'll see the provision for hand-starting at the back of the tanks - one even has a folded crank handle in situ; hopefully these tanks have all been correctly identified as M1917s (), but certainly they seem to wear their exhausts on the left.

Regarding FTs, they seem to have been provided with a crank handle inside, plus the ability to be cranked from outside, as shown here.



-- Edited by TinCanTadpole on Wednesday 26th of September 2012 12:21:40 AM

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I think it must have had both. This is a pic of some of the M1917s sold to Canada (unhelpfully described as Renaults, but definitely M1917s).



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Good clip thanks for posting, smile



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TinCanTadpole wrote:

If you look at the M1917 article on Landships II... ...hopefully these tanks have all been correctly identified as M1917s ...

 Just checked all the photos in that article and all except two are definitely M1917s.



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I think there are a couple of FTs there with M1917 turrets,



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James H wrote:

I think there are a couple of FTs there with M1917 turrets,

 I'm not going to thread hijack you James, so I've started another thread about that FT M1917 hybrid.



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