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Latest edition No. 4284 caught my eye in the newsagent's this morning. Something on the cover rang a bell. Although the story is about the BEF in early WWII, there is a drawing of an Uhlan and a chap in a lemon-squeezer hat. It seems that someone at Commando has learnt of The Legion Of Frontiersmen.

http://landships.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=10076920

A furtive browse in the shop reveals that the plot is something about the WWII blokes being in the same difficulties as their WWI counterparts, and the ghosts of the Frontiersmen come to their aid and then it turns out one of them is related to one of the WWII blokes. Or something. Lots of "Britisher (sic) Schweinhund" and "Don't point that thing at me, Fritz!", etc.

A while ago a Commando story featured some WWII British finding a WWI Tank in a museum, starting it up, and using it to rout the Jerries. No more need be said about that.

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Good heavens - the Legion of Frontiersmen. I just caught up on the references.

That pre-war period was quite extraordinary and peopled by extraordinary people. One that may not be well known (an Australian) was (Herbert) Dyce Murphy - but he is fairly well documented on the internet. He toured Europe, disguised as woman and accompanied by a retired Admiral, with the task of spying out and recording details of the continental railway networks in anticipation of the coming conflict.

He was later with Mawson's 1911 Antarctic expedition where a fellow expeditioner was Lt. EFR (Bob) Bage of the Australian Engineers, on leave from the army. Bage has a chapter in The Home of the Blizzard, the report of the expedition. He was unfortunately killed at Gallipoli, early in May, 1915, marking out a trench in a place where some General thought there should be one despite the location being under direct fire from at least five emplaced Turkish MMGs (or perhaps because of it).

Also on the expedition was Frank Hurley, photographer who became an official Australian war photographer. The AWM and NAA is full of his work - some of it a little controversial since he had the habit of superimposing some of his shots for dramatic effect.

And FH Bicketrton was there as well, one-time hunter for RL Stevenson's Treasure Island which he was convinced was real, maintainer of the expedition's "air tractor" and radio station. He went on to be a fighter pilot on the western front and served in WW2 as well.

Not to mention CT Madigan, expedition Meteorologist (who has his chapter in Blizzard too IIRC) who had deferred taking up his Rhodes Scholarship to take part in Mawson's expedition. He was to serve with the RE in the war then went on to become a renowned geologist, explorer and educator back in Australia.

All of these people led lives that were like something out of Boys Own Paper. Apart from Bob Bage being shot dead. I don't recall much of that in the BOP. Anyway, my thesis is the Legion of Frontiersmen was very much part of that same childlike extravagance of adventurousness that has, by and large, long gone from the world I think. Or perhaps not - even now young Jessica Watson nears the end of her solo voyage in her extremely pink yacht. A sixteen year-old for heaven's sake. When I was sixteen I could barely be trusted to catch a metropolitan train by myself.

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Hi. Commando have always been ones for great stories. They did a story about a bus on the Frontline, oops sorry Front Line, isn't the other a flea treatment? I'll dig up the issue number if interested, I'll have a trawl through and find it, I have in the region of a thousand or so, some inherited others I have purchased over the years. Unfortunately a great source of getting them was a "proper" little newtsagent in Borth, now sadly closed, a fact that I found to great upset yesterday morning on my way home, I was looking forward to buying some :( and a handful of penny chews, well we do live by the sea and everyday is a holiday in Aber *lol*.

I always preferred Commando to the others, Battle, War etc, the artwork was far superior.
digging through the mags I'm sure to find some other Great War odds.

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Here´s a little list of the WWI related storys I´ve collected so far:



771

Giant-Killer

1278

The Helmet

1592

Stolen Glory

1842

The Aces

1884

Charlie´s Tank

2304

To The Death!

2461

Raid By Night!

2530

From beyond the grave

2541

Fathers and sons

2647

Dead Mens Revenge

2649

Bad Blood

2676

The Man With No Shadow

2793

Stormtrooper

2809

Always Ready

2817

Valley Of Death

2866

Revolution!

2875

Father And Son

2889

Race For Your Life

2906

Battling Boneshakers

2918

Flames Of War

2973

Zeppelin Killer

2991

Lost In Time

2997

Tin-Can Fury

3060

Metcalf´s Medal

3104

Mongrel Squadron

3135

Wings Over Africa

3137

Red Menace

3161

Secret Of The Sword

3174

Over The Top! (Terror In No-Man´s-Land)

3221

Mooney´s Monster

3234

Terror Tactics

3257

The Condemned Men

3280

Battling Relic

3290

Tin-Can Terrors

3297

Buried Secret

3309

Warriors In Time

3354

Mark Of The Wolf

3365

Tin Lizzy Terrors

3368

Deadly Duell

3376

The Great Retreat

3409

Desert Shot Out

3437

Alpine Aces

3474

The Fighting Giants

3488

Best Of The Bombers

3497

Ghosts!

3513

Flying Eye

3530

Mountain Warfare

3538

Rogue Ace

3545

The Two Charlies

3626

Tin-Can Troopers

3633

The Worst Of Pals

3661

Run The Blockade

3686

Return To Action

3687

Master Marksman

3689

War Wagon

3693

...A Second Chance

3698

Front-Line Fear

3729

The Forgotten Five

3768

The First Aces

3797

The Art Of War

3801

Frontline Leader

3821

Heroes From The Past

3838

Terror In The Trenches

3846

Chamber Of Evil

3848

Storm Troopers!

3878

Harry´s War

3882

The Long Way Home

3889

Delivery Boy

3938

Billy´s Best Friend

3941

Trial By Battle

3951

The War Watch

3957

Skinner´s Squad

4036

Saving Lives!

4041

"Taxi!"

4050

"Hold The Front Page!"

4051

The Marksmen

4057

Tin-Can Trouble

4068

Sentenced To Death

4075

The Railway Raiders

4084

Submarine Warriors

4089

Treachery In The Trenches

4091

Ace Versus Ace

4147

Battlefield Bike

4249

The 11th hour

4265

The blast from the past

4226

The secret Invasion

4153

Roar of the guns



The yellow marked ones are "split-storys" (WWI & WWII, or else)

Some of them are re-issues.

Here you can take a look of all the ralated issues since the beginning:
http://www.britishcomics.20m.com/pocket.htm


Happy reading! biggrin

Oliver

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Hi Wollhodden, I'm intested to see what "Red menace" and "Revolution!" are about.
Thanks, Hugh.

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I'd be interested to know more about the bus. I have a book on the B-Type with a couple of anecdotes about its service in France. The story might be based on them. And the one where they start up a WWI Tank in WWII would be interesting, however far-fetched.

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I'll have a look for the bus story. This weekend, I have visitors and the FA Cup is on, though I won't miss that for anythingbiggrin.
So I'll get me skates on and do some digging which is great as I have my Airfix bus coming soon too.
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Hughbearson wrote:

Hi Wollhodden, I'm intested to see what "Red menace" and "Revolution!" are about.
Thanks, Hugh.




This is "Red Menace" & Revolution!" (and another Comic which is situated in Russia 1917 resp.  WWII, called "Tin Can Fury")

 

By the way, there also 2 "Freikorps" storys so far: "Mark of the Wolf" & "Stormtrooper"

(There are 2 similiar named storys: 2793 Stormtrooper (Freikorps) & 3848 Storm Troopers! (Western Front))



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James H wrote:

I'd be interested to know more about the bus. I have a book on the B-Type with a couple of anecdotes about its service in France. The story might be based on them. And the one where they start up a WWI Tank in WWII would be interesting, however far-fetched.




Which WWI/WWII Tank story did you mean?

There a several weird storys about WWI Tank resurrection in WWII! confusewink

(except "Buried Secret" this is also a WWI/ WWII Tank split-story, but without the old tank running...)

 

And is "Run the Blockade!" the Bus story which you meant?



-- Edited by Wollhodden on Friday 14th of May 2010 11:15:01 AM

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That's fantastic, Oliver. Thank you very much. I think Charlie's Tank is the one I dimly remember. The price of 22p dates it - and me. The bus story - a Daimler, not a B-Type, and fairly accurately drawn - is actually quite plausible. Since the buses were driven by their civilian crews, I assume the plot is that members of the Royal Naval Division commandeered it and drove it towards Nieuport, with, judging from the illustration, Belgian soldiers as passengers.










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These are great! Now that we have the titles, we can look for them on ebay. Thank you for posting up the cover illustrations.

'Tin Can Fury' shows a Lanchester, so someone has done their homework.

Great stuff!

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Ally Sloper? Seriously?! (One of the characters in the Bus story) - as well as being the name of a newspaper cartoon character from the Victorian/Edwardian era, the Army Service Corps was nicknamed 'Ally Sloper's Cavalry'

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I have found some of them...As for the British Tank in the Museum Commando N0.4160
Back From The Dead was about a Panzer IV  in a German Museum.
Commando No.4016 Out-Gunned is cracking:

"Tom Stewart was an R.A.F fighter pilot, but in the chaos that followed the fall of Singapore, he found himself manning the guns on an obsolete old vessel from the First World War. To make matters worse, the young airman's ship was grounded. And closing fast was the cruiser, Hiro, pride of the Japanese navy, Her eight-unch guns blazing..."


Regards,
Fiona X


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Rob wrote:
Ally Sloper? Seriously?! (One of the characters in the Bus story) - as well as being the name of a newspaper cartoon character from the Victorian/Edwardian era, the Army Service Corps was nicknamed 'Ally Sloper's Cavalry'

The name rang a bell with me, but I couldn't think why. It turns out to be a rather convoluted matter.

Ally Sloper was indeed a 19th century cartoon character, in appearance and behaviour remarkably similar to the inimitable W.C. Fields. His name seems to have been a pun on aller and "to slope off," both indicating his tendency to make himself scarce at times of difficulty, upon the rent becoming due, or whenever he might be required to pay for drinks. The conveniently abbreviated ASC was given the nickname by troops not convinced of the Corps's value on the battlefield. In the case of the character in the bus story, it might be that his name was Sloper and he was nicknamed Ally by his comrades, or it might be a little joke by the author. I am happy to receive further insight.

The Railway Raiders looks highly interesting, presumably set in Mesopotamia. It reminds me that in 1917 a U-Boat was captured by the Belgian 5th Cavalry.

 



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Hi James. The Railway Raiders is set in Mesopotamia. It would make a good Diorama wouldn't it!? Hmmm not sure we have the room. Matt already has a couple of 1/72nd U-Boats.

Strictly not WW1 subjects but when I'm ill and have trouble concentrating my fave Commando's to read are:
The Boss Of The Sky, Jet Menace and O For Orange and Bet Your Life. They are a bit tatty really so I think I've been ill a lot :(
So how come a girl reads Commando? I read all my Bunty's and Debbie comics. Had a really bad case of measles when I was a lot littler than I am now and Dad gave me his to read. Gosh I have fond memories of reading those with him on holiday too.
If anyone knows what is the title of the Commando that "Starred" Scruffy Turner? An ace pilot who decorated his billet in Hakenkreutz. That one has gone missing for some reason and I'd like to replace it.

Thanks and regards,
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James H wrote:

...The conveniently abbreviated ASC was given the nickname by troops not convinced of the Corps's value on the battlefield. ...


Talking of the ASC, has anyone reviewed the first britishpathe.com (R)ASC reel? http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75429. Lots of interesting stuff there, including "the first ever tracked vehicle".

Yes, yes, easy to see who's just (re)discovered this fascinating resource (and whose download quota is being frittered away on 'sightseeing').

Steve

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Issue No. 4305 is out, and they're at it again:

Central Russia, 1918. An armoured train, bristling with artillery and machine guns is locked in a duel to the death. But what with? A spindly freakish contraption seemingly too fragile for battle. Yet this nightmare of a device blasting away with its own deadly guns towers over the train. Where has it come from, this monster of war? And why is it crewed by the Royal Naval Air Service?

Spoiler Alert

Why, it's the derelict Tsar Tank, discovered in a hangar by men of the RNAS Armoured Car Squadron and - guess what? Started up and pressed into service against the wicked Bolsheviks. It, naturally, sweeps all before it, crushing enemy armoured cars and, eventually, the armoured train.

A note of genuine interest: the text says the tank was nicknamed "The Bat" by its inventors. Anyone heard that before?



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From Wikipedia "The vehicle received its nickname because its model, when carried by the back wheel, resembled a bat hanging asleep. " I also read a modelling article by Steve Zaloga, Who also mentioned this nickname. Commando mags were  nicknamed "training pamphlets" while I served in the R.S.D.G's in the '70s

Paul

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