Landships II

Date: Aug 17, 2005

Italian Semovente 105/14 SP Gun

Date: Aug 17, 2005

Yes, I have to fall into Tims plea: I have found little other info on this Italian SP (a FT-17 variant) other than the one supplies in Mr Panzers Instruction Sheet.

Anyone knows more one the Semovente 105/14??? A photo, even a murky one, would be nice!

/PK

Date: Aug 17, 2005

PS

My model of the Semovente can be seen here http://www.landships.freeservers.com/semovente_105-14_model.htm

Just a quick and fun build, suing the H�T FT-17 and the Mr Panzer conversion Kit.

/PK

Date: Aug 17, 2005

Will this do?

Date: Aug 17, 2005

Caption reads:

"The attack gun of 105mm, probably constructed by modifying a Renault FT17 orgiginating from the Ansaldo factory, without date, without place (plate 45/18)"

The picture is from the excellent if somewhat pricy two-volume book by the historical office of the Italian Army:

Lucio Ceva & Andrea Curami: La Meccanizzazione dell'Esercito fino al 1943 (Roma, 1994).

Its 1200 or so pages are crammed with information, but only the last 250 of the second volume contain the photographs and drawings. This means 950 pages or so of Italian text, which might deter those who do not speak or read this beautiful language...

The book also contains two drawings of a 75 mm and long-barreled SP project, neither of them however making it into production:

Caption reads:

"An Ansaldo project of a 75 mm Assault Gun on Renault chassis, without date, without place"

Caption reads:

"An further development of the project shown before: the 105 mm Assault Gun, without date, without place"

Date: Aug 17, 2005

Mario

How can I say Thank you enough, Danke, Grazie, ��, Gracias, Obrigado, Merci, or how about a regular THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have never seen this information before, it�s great. Time to plan a scratch build. Do you have any more awesome stuff like this on any thing Italian???????

Again Thanks

All the Best

Tim R.

Date: Aug 18, 2005

Mario!

Many, many, MANY thanks! I see now that I painted my Model WRONG!

The original obviously had a multi-colour segment type of camo. Well, those things happen...

Again: thanks!!!! (This Forum has quickly proved to be a real asset. Thanks to Tim who came with the idea of starting one!)

/Peter K

Date: Aug 18, 2005

"Do you have any more awesome stuff like this on any thing Italian???????"

Well, as said the second volume of the book contains some 250 pages of Italian warhorses both projects and actual production vehicles, and some of them really are outrageous!

Checking what I actually payed for the two I found out that it was Hfl.88,00, about $49.00, which really isn't that much at all. However, I was a lot poorer then and what lodged these books as "expensive" in my memory must also have been the fact that volume 1 has no illustrations at all and volume 2 only in the latter third of the book. Even though I can read Italian fairly well I felt at the time I was paying for a lot I wouldn't be using very often. Ansd I must admit, I bought them in 1994 but still haven't read all 1200 pages...

By the way, the books were first publshed 1989, my copy is the second edition of 1994.

Mario

Date: Aug 18, 2005

Take a look at:

http://www.italiankits.it/sme.html

The books currently costs �32,00 / about $39.25 (Xe.com) and if you are into Italian stuff the Image Appendix of Volume 2 alone is well worth it. I know more expensive books that have less to offer!

Mario

Date: Aug 18, 2005

Mario, thank you very very much!

This is what makes this a community.

There are many of us from lots of different countries, and each of us has our own collection of books. While each of us may find our collection of books sort of standard, I'm sure every single one of us has a WWI Tank book that none of the others have ever viewed.

It's important for us to share our knowledge, and the knowledge in our books, for the greater good of all WWI Armor fans!

Again, thank you Mario!

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Date: Aug 18, 2005

Vilkata,

Being Dutch myself having a collection of Italian books is not what one would expect. Must be my name that got me hooked on Italian stuff, even if I do not have a drop of Italian blood in my family...

I agree: there are some gems in each person's collection, and you are all free to use mine whenever I can help!

Mario

Date: Aug 19, 2005

great photos
i wonder what colors were used and the fitat 3000 has such a cool camo I should of painted my tauro model that way . . .

what are the colors does it say for the fiat 300 and semovente

Date: Sep 2, 2005

Mario Wens wrote:

Caption reads: "The attack gun of 105mm, probably constructed by modifying a Renault FT17 orgiginating from the Ansaldo factory, without date, without place (plate 45/18)" The picture is from the excellent if somewhat pricy two-volume book by the historical office of the Italian Army: Lucio Ceva & Andrea Curami: La Meccanizzazione dell'Esercito fino al 1943 (Roma, 1994). Its 1200 or so pages are crammed with information, but only the last 250 of the second volume contain the photographs and drawings. This means 950 pages or so of Italian text, which might deter those who do not speak or read this beautiful language... The book also contains two drawings of a 75 mm and long-barreled SP project, neither of them however making it into production: Caption reads: "An Ansaldo project of a 75 mm Assault Gun on Renault chassis, without date, without place" Caption reads: "An further development of the project shown before: the 105 mm Assault Gun, without date, without place"

my oh my that looks like it would fun to build.