Hi! Help me determine how to properly called these Austrian guns
1) 83,5 mm Skoda ? M17 gun (Photo from the book CAPPELLANO Filippo L'ARTIGLIERIA AUSTRO-UNGARICA NELLA GRANDE GUERRA) 2) 83,5 mm Skoda M18 gun (Photo from the book Chamberlain, Peter & Terry Gander Light and Medium Field Artillery WW2 Fact Files) ?????????????????? Is correct? Best regards!
The first photo depicts a standard M15 re-sleeved to an experimental higher velocity system. The lengthened barrel was down sized with subsequent increase in range. The system was never adapted by the KuK and production was not initiated. My notes are inconclusive about the propellant, but in as much as the breach remained unchanged it would appear the casing may have been elongated and necked down with accommodating chamber modifications.
The second pic appears to be a post-war piece; likely in the standard 7,5cm calibre the KuK favored for mountain guns. I'd be interested in learning it's history should anyone out there know.
the canyon, which you sent me the pictures is not a definite answer. This issue, I consulted with staff of the Military History Institute in Prague. CANNON 83.5 vs. 17 and vz. 18 excluded. A clone is considered that this could be a 100 mm howitzer vz. 16/19, but the howitzer barrel is too long (the first image in jpg).
The second figure (in gif) - Shield and looks like a gun carriage 104 mm vz. 15, but the cradle and the barrel is different. Mr. Francev said that reminds him of French origin and admits that the carriage could be from Krupp.
Any other opinions Francev and Mr. Haas and I will inform you. ...................................................... end of answer Best regards..vasek resin
I thought I recognised the first gun - it's preserved at the Military Museum at Roverto, Italy. I think it may be an experimental gun produced by Vickers-Terni to improve the Skoda 10.4cm M15 guns that Italy received after WW1. (Image from http://italie1935-45.com)
