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I'd like to create some vehicles for my personal little "Dunkirk Circus" - although in 10mm for skirmishes with some Uhlans. 10mm being about 1/150, so yeah, I am aware that this might be the wrong scale for most of you wink.gif.

Are there some line drawings or plans of the "notorious" forerunner to the now so iconic turreted pattern variant?

I refer to this one:

AC2small.jpg

My sources show it mostly from a frontal angle, but I need more infos about the general proportions, especially the shape of the sideway armour plates at the bonnet. These appear to have been mounted in two different angles.

War Cars shows a rough sketch and a picture of a Roller with a wooden armour mock-up, the sideway "armour" being only mounted with one straight angle.

I hope that this didn't sound too confusing, since English isn't my first language... ashamed.gif

As far as I know, these early armoured Rollers were taken back to be re-armoured into the "proper" turreted pattern. So the general dimensions remained the same.

The books I currently own are:

War Cars by David Fletcher

Tanks and other Armored Fighting Vehicles 1900-1918 by B.T. White

Die deutschen Radpanzer im Ersten Weltkrieg by Heinrich Kauffold-Roll

Fights and Flights by C.R. Samson

Do you have some further informations?

 



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B.T.White: British Armoured Cars.

E. Bartholomew: Early Armoured Cars. Shire Album 209. 1988.

 

But I think that the second book is not giving any further information to those you have.

 

I suppose this photo is the best one showing the angles of the plates on the bonnet, eventhough I am not 100 % sure if this is RR. Kaufhold-Roll says it is, but front springs and radiator cover are different than in other RR:s. This could be Talbot with hinged radiator doors, which Fretcher mentions in War Cars. Perhaps someone who knows better this cars can say if it is or not? But the shape of the armor is like in RR, anyway, as it is in Talbot with sloping radiator plate, shown in War Cars page 15.

 

 

 

 



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If you look the first photo here, the link below, the wheels show that this is not a RR. I suppose it is Talbot.

 

Still, an interesting photo showing the side of the car and showing some Germans too.

 

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http://www.aviarmor.net/TWW2/armored_cars/greatbritain/ac_rolls-royce_1914.htm



-- Edited by MTorrent on Thursday 21st of April 2011 06:38:41 PM

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No Germans in sight here. This is the town hall of Ghent in october 1914

Carl

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Sorry, I did mean the photo on that link aviarmor.net, not the photo shown here...



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Is this a Talbot or a Wolseley ? certainly not the RR built by Samson !

1914 photo taken at Gent during the retreat  from Antwerp.

Gemsco



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