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Brewster Body armor 1917-18.jpgBritish Facial defence system.jpgExperimental Machine gunner helmet 1918.jpgProtective pilot suit 1917.jpg4Wheeled mobile shield.jpg

Hello,

Found this pictures somewhere on Google:

Pic1: Brewster Body Armour 1917/18
Pic2: (British?) Facial Defense system
Pic3: Experimental Machine-gunner helmet 1918
Pic4: Protective Pilot suit 1917: seems to be Belgian (and not Starwars)
Pic5: 4Wheeled Mobile shield (=Creeping tank more then 1Person?)

Anyone has seen those things and were were they used (Tested??)

Tks,
DJ

 



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Hi

Theres a book on Helmets & Body Armour from 1920 you can download a copy here at least some pics are probarbly from it, cant help with the otheres though...

http://www.archive.org/details/helmetsbodyarmor00deanuoft

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Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199MBjHkBPM&feature=related



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The Belgian pilot's equipment looks a lot later than WW1 to me - mainly due to the look of the pilot's jacket, the pipe for the oxygen mask (although oxygen was of course used in WW1 aviation) and the helmet shape

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Hi Rob I think your right it looks late, is the Airman wearing a flak jacket hes certainly wearing a helmet..perhaps its Allied WW2 bomber crew? probarbly US Aircrew...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/billchurchley/lorenz.JPG

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Thanks for the answers, gonna try to have info concerning the pilot helmet in Brussels museum

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The guy in the first photo has a percussion musket! Not standard issue in WW1, surely?
I agree about the O2 pipe looking later than 14-18, the only ones I've seen from that period were metal pipes which the crew put into their mouths (and were apparently horrible to use as they froze to the lips).
But I'm no expert.

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The first pic could well be Dr Guy Otis Brewster the inventor of the armor....

 "Experiments were made with this body defense at Picatinny Arsenal in April, 1917,
when Dr. Brewster stood in front of a Lewis machine gun and received an impact of a number of bullets at full-service velocity (about 2,700 foot secounds)"

from "Helmets and Body Armor" pg 243

 

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Tankcommander wrote:

Hello,

Found this pictures somewhere on Google:

 Hi DJ,

Looks like most of your finds are via http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/02/medieval-suits-of-armor.html (scroll down, etc.). A number of your pics are credited to http://history.amedd.army.mil/ which may or may not be correct (DRB is not exactly scholarly-meticulous in the attribution department) - anyway see http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/woundblstcs/DEFAULT.htm and particularly XI. Personnel Protective Armor.

Ah, darkroastedblend, one of my all-time favourite sites to visit, seriously.  It's been too long, thanks for the reminder.

Steve

 



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picture number 3 is a 1917 model Queen Elisabeth helmet, Brussels Museum has one in the collection. The picture of the man 'en profile' with the air hose: looks very much to a ww2 US airman to me, with the helmet and the hinged ear protection.

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kieffer wrote:

picture number 3 is a 1917 model Queen Elisabeth helmet, Brussels Museum has one in the collection.

 

 Correct. Made in Wolverhampton. The Queen asked the D.G. of the British Trench Warfare Supply Department to produce a model. Apparently, also known as the Weekers helmet, but I don't know who Weekers was.

 

Pic No. 2 is an experimental early British model. 7 & 8 are U.S. Experimental Model #7, 5 & 6 Experimental #9



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Hi Steve,

The website where I found is correct, Tks for the other Link

DJ



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