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3.rd Machine gun company of III.regiment. Armoured train No. I. 9.4. 1918.

Photo from The Armour Journal.

 


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Very nice! Czech Legion in Siberia ( 1918-1920 ) was a major armed force. These forces had about 40 armored trains. Besides work in Siberia Polish, Romanian and Japanese armored trains. Yours Krzysztof from Poland.



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Nice picture! I did a research on Chinese armored trains two years ago. Quite a few of the Czech Legion armored trains ended up in China(including the famous Orlik) and formed the basis of Fengtian Clique armored train squadrons.

Is there any good books/articles devoted to Czech Legion's armored trains?

P.S. I find the two mortars(? small guns nevertheless) very interesting. Can anyone identify them?

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I know of only two publications on the subject: history armored train Orlik (in Polish), and a book  ( in Russian).

Russian 91-mm GR mine thrower model 1915.Yours.



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Thanks for identifying the mortar.

I know it seems difficult to type non-English language in this forum, but could you please provide a link to where these books are sold?

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They are already old publications: russian title in my translation- Siberian historical almanac, Volume 1, The Civil War in Siberia.and polish journal 1997 y : From Odessa to Harbin M.Koomijec (history of armored rail cruiser Zaamutets and history of Czech armored train Orlik). Yours.

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Thanks a lot! Do these works talk much on Orlik's situation in China? I know that it remained in Fengtian army's armored trains squadrons until 1932 when it was lost in a fight against Japanese. I have found the Japanese account regarding Orlik's last fight in 1932, but beside that I know quite little. Was it still manned by Czechs/White Russians for some time after it was under Chinese control?

BTW, is it possible to buy these publicans somewhere on the Internet?

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Is this book yet avaiable?
I'm very interesting with russian civil war armored trains and building the 5stars armored draisine Zaamurets.
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It is possible that the book is no longer available.

Subject armored trains in the civil war in Russia is very interesting. It lists the number of 400 units, but this is the amount of underreported (about 700 pieces ). The journal  Polish is  armored draisine Zaamurets  drawing. Yours.      



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Armored car in China (armored draisine Zaamurets  ). Description in Chinese.Yours.



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Thank a lot!
I found maybe 30 Zaamurets/Orlik pics on the web, but a comprehensive book on the subject would be welcome!
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kamo200 wrote:

Armored car in China (armored draisine Zaamurets  ). Description in Chinese.Yours.


 The description is in Japanese. I remember that Orlik was once in Japanese hand for a short time in 1919 or 1920, I think this is when this photo was taken.



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I write - in Japanese. Other photos .. Yours.



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Osprey has two books on Russian civil war armor which includes some information on armored trains

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These books Osprey are just popular. It was released in France the book   P. Malmassari Les trains blindes 1826-1989  but some of the information is no longer valid. I have all these books. Yours.



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