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I haven't been able to find too much info so far.

What does this have to do with WW1?  Well, I imagine many got destroyed in the war; in fact WW1 was, politically and socially speaking, the end of the old period of royalty and social rank in Europe.  Said manor house would be a symbol of it.

I was thinking not of a pretty bauble like that of Downton Abbey, but preferably the very old-type black timber/white plaster type of the Middle Ages, not attractive but like what a medieval lord who ruled the local peasants would have lived in.  There are many pictures of said house types, but I wondered what they had in Eastern France, in the countryside.  (All the pictures I saw were of city houses.)

I don't need so much pictures as a description of how big they were, how they were structured, etc.



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Would this serve as an example of what you are looking for?
http://la-lorraine-se-devoile.blogspot.com.ar/2008/08/chteau-mdival-de-jaulny-meurthe-et.html

Take into account that the "country nobility" of France was less wealthy and rather impoverished, because of the less importance in polithical and economical affairs, a situation quite different from the British traditional country lords. Take into account that the effect of the Revolution of 1789 wiped the "Ancient Régime" in most of the country, and that provincial rich people were less related to chateaus and more related to tradespeople and a less isolated town house.
A good example of a powerful small-town-landowner can be seen on the movies (from the mid 80s) "Manon des Sources" or "Jean de Florette", which, while describing a period of history slightly later than 1918, will give you the look of the dilapidated farmsteads that were scattered on the country, and the relatively plain town mansions were the owners lived.
Another, perhaps less connected, useful movie to see how a country house looked like, is a relatively new movie starring Russell Crowe "A Good Year", where they show a large mansion with vineyards. None of these movies show a "medieval" building, but I doubt that medieval houses were so steady as in Britain and/or Germany in the French countryside.
A more modest farm house (but very pretty and well kept) can be seen on "A long Dimanche de Fiançalles", a rather well researched movie set in the 20s.

Hope this helps!



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Yes, thank you very much!

But why a French one?  If I recall correctly, little of the war took place in Germany itself.



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Well, you asked for a French example... However Alsace and Larraine were, in 1914, technically German territory!
BTW you can also search for some Belgian example.... perhaps the Flemish have houses like the ones you mention.

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Lots of chateaux were destroyed during WW1.
<a rel=ww1battlefields.co.uk/flanders/images/east/potgroundsnels1.jpg">
Potijze Chateau

<a rel=angloboerwarmuseum.com/images/boer/photos_bw/lievin_chateau.jpg">
Lievin. (Too "Fairy Tale?)

<a rel=farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7188646906_a482a13530_z.jpg">
Peronne.





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Thanks!  The idea was to make something that represented the dying order, just as the Bastille represented the old French pre-1789 regime.  If I read correctly, the Bastille structure served a number of purposes over its lifetime before becoming a prison in the end.



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Pzkpfw-e wrote:

Lots of chateaux were destroyed during WW1.
ww1battlefields.co.uk/flanders/images/east/potgroundsnels1.jpg">
Potijze Chateau

angloboerwarmuseum.com/images/boer/photos_bw/lievin_chateau.jpg">
Lievin. (Too "Fairy Tale?)

farm8.staticflickr.com/7075/7188646906_a482a13530_z.jpg">
Peronne.

Sorry, the links didn't work.  Not that it greatly matters; I can make a fictional one for that matter because it's something that wouldn't exist after the war.

BTW, I read the novelization of Doctor Who And The War Games, which describes a ruined chateau being the setting for the first part of the story (though I wasn't planning to represent that specifically either).


 



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Here's something of interest:
www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/4410-620x442.jpg

part of this set of autochromes:
www.retronaut.com/2011/10/colour-photographs-1914-1918/

D.

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d_fernetti wrote:

Here's something of interest:
www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/4410-620x442.jpg

part of this set of autochromes:
www.retronaut.com/2011/10/colour-photographs-1914-1918/

D.


 Wow, neat picture collection!  I never knew color photography existed then.



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