Landships II

MK1 Nut · Hero

Mk1 with Track Grousers

PDA · Legend

Tank C6 (752). Ditched. 2Lt Tarbet commanding. Arras.

PDA · Legend

http://landships.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=63528&p=3&topicID=18165927

752 again.

"23 Apr 1917 – "C" Battalion, 7 Company, C6, Lt HP Jones – Attached to VI Corps, Broke down. Did not Start. OR Restarted attacked and Knocked out by Shell. Photographed Broken Down, probably in Athies." from munkeezulu's site, here: https://sites.google.com/site/landships/home/lists/listofmkimaletanks

Gwyn Evans · Legend

In my experience, proving something did exist is easier than proving it didn't. You only need evidence of one to prove the former, but you need evidence of all to prove the latter (unless it's impossible, of course).

Gwyn

TeeELL · General

Here is the photo referred too in post 3.

-- Edited by TeeELL on Monday 21st of April 2014 09:04:06 PM

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

-- Edited by Alpha Six on Thursday 24th of April 2014 08:21:17 PM

MK1 Nut · Hero

Thank you for the photo Alpha, I have not seen that one before.

That's what I like about this site, ask a question and you get answers, plus there is always something new that pops up.

Helen x

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

Helen, thank you.
I find this photo at vol. 1 of Tankograd Verlag publication 'British tanks in German service' www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php
It dated by 1917

PDA · Legend

Alpha Six wrote:
Helen, thank you.
I find this photo at vol. 1 of Tankograd Verlag publication 'British tanks in German service' www.tankograd.com/cms/website.php
It dated by 1917

Which is strange because the Mark I was never in German service.

Maybe something has been lost in translation; maybe it would be more accurate to say, "Some British Tanks that the Germans captured".

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

The publication does not say that mk-1 was used by the German army.

"British tanks in German service" is only name of publication, illustrated by lot of photos, including this one in chapter devoted of history of tanks and their battle use.
So there is nothing strange.

TeeELL · General

Having read through the intro list of content at 'Tankograd' the only mention is of MkIV's. I think we need to stop this thread drift as it is all about the Mk1 fitted with track extensions (and, it seems, engine exhausts! - but that is another thread drift, sorry!!)

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

Sorry, I only marked source of photo this MK-I with grousers ))

TeeELL · General

Alpha Six, my apologies I confess that I have failed to find the 'Mk1 with grousers' photo from your post.

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

TeeEll, sorry, maybe I do not understand the peculiarities of the English language, but it is Mk-1 with grousers.

-- Edited by Alpha Six on Saturday 26th of April 2014 11:27:42 AM

PDA · Legend

Alpha Six wrote:
The publication does not say that mk-1 was used by the German army.

"British tanks in German service" is only name of publication, illustrated by lot of photos, including this one in chapter devoted of history of tanks and their battle use.
So there is nothing strange.

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks, A6.

TeeELL · General

Yes I too thank you Alpha Six for showing the photo. I was unable to find it through your reference.

Rhomboid · Field Marshal

Here is another view of the tank, taken by a British photographer. It became bogged in a marshy area on the north bank of Scarpe near Fampoux, while returning from an action at Roeux on Apr. 23, 1917. It remained behind British lines until the Germans retook this area in March 1918.

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

Fate of A17 OH I SAY with grousers
s018.radikal.ru/i521/1601/e7/657bc34ba098.jpg

Rhomboid · Field Marshal

Thanks for posting this link, Denis. I had seen this photo before, but never in enough resolution to identify the tank as A17. The photo would indicate that A17 survived the Somme battle of 1916, and was destroyed during the Arras offensive in April 1917. By that time, the tank would have been reassigned to C or D Bn. HBMGC. Eight MkI female tanks took part in the Arras/Bullecourt fighting, and records show that two, 524 and 531, were destroyed by shellfire. I suspect it is 531, destroyed by a shell on April 11, 1917 at Bullecourt.

This photo, and that of 716 above, suggest that the MkI veteran tanks from the Somme may not have been repainted before going into action at Arras, and were still in "Solomon" camouflage.