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Does anyone know what this is? Where? Is it Munster? Why the numbers? Why the colour? Where's the running gear? Etc.

 

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Definitely not the one at munster the munster repro has more rivets ,and this one is also missing the vents on top.

 

A7v-wotan-diorama.jpg

 

 



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It's found somewhere in Czechia, designed to be put on a contemporary AFV (MTLB or something like that). There may be even two of them. So, you want a movie featuring A7Vs, here you are...



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Really? You must tell us more!



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Wotan at Munster is a rivet for rivet copy of #506 Mephisto. The German team who built Wotan spent a long time surveying Mephisto in Brisbane.

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mad zeppelin wrote:

It's found somewhere in Czechia, designed to be put on a contemporary AFV (MTLB or something like that). There may be even two of them. So, you want a movie featuring A7Vs, here you are...


I can't believe there is so little information about this. Who would be making a film that needed an A7V? What is it about?

Who made the superstructure? How many are there? Someone must know something.



-- Edited by James H on Monday 7th of July 2014 04:32:11 PM

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Well, we need someone from Czech Republic to let us know more. Maybe it wasn't bulit for film, maybe someone just wanted to have a replica like this to use for some reenactment? I heard about existence of this replica a few years ago, but I completely don't know details - who bulit it, why, where exactly and when. And possibility that there are two such replicas in Czech Republic is new information for me.

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I might be able to shed some light on this... I am from the Czech Republic and from what I have read there seems to be two A7V replicas near Milovice, Czech Republic. There is a "military & adrenaline park" in Milovice with many AFVs.

On this page there are photos of two different A7Vs from 2007: http://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/67721

Some sources state that these are built on top of a IFV chassis.

Some posts or pictures I found are from 2014, so I am optimistic that these A7Vs might still be there.



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Bonjour,

On the second photo, the 6 track rollers are well from an AIFV BMP 1/2 or an artillery tractor MT-LB.

Bonne après-midi - Michel

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-- Edited by Tanker on Sunday 12th of April 2015 02:40:07 PM

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Thanks to Bodlosh and Michel.

Looking at the rust marks on the front left plate, I think these are shots of the same vehicle. The camo scheme to entertain the punters. Will try to find out more.

 



-- Edited by James H on Monday 13th of April 2015 11:29:11 AM

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Definitely a BMP chassis underneath. MT-LB has different spacing between the road wheels at the 5th and 6th road wheel stations, as well as a different pressed pattern to the wheels themselves. Notice also a second BMP behind the mounted A7V in Bodlosh's second photo - perhaps for the other A7V bodywork?

Also, who else REALLY wants to go to this park?

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Thanks for clearing up what vehicle was the surrogate for this A7V filmpanzer! For the longest time I had thought that this was the same vehicle used in the Eastern German film about the Spartacist Uprising. I had always read that prop was based on a T-34 chassis. 

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The Eastern German film about the Spartacist Uprising: Trotz alledem!

 



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Ah. Trotz Alledem (In Spite of Everything). Hundleby and Strasheim show that picture in the Tankograd book. They don't say what the film was called, but we can assume that Hedi is correct. I think they also say it's on a T34.

Two things, then. If it's meant to be an A7V operating during the post-war disturbances. it shouldn't be Wotan  (and certainly not 527 Lotti). At best, it could be Imperator.

Trotz Alledem was made in 1972. http://panzerbilder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/sturmpanzerwagen-a7v-replika-ddr.html  I was doubtful that it would still be around 43 years later, but on Missing Lynx there's a post from earlier this year by a gent who says he came across the photos "years ago," so maybe.

Anyway, I've emailed the Tankodrom and asked if they can supply any details. No reply as yet.

In answer to Matt's question, I can only think that it's the sort of place Jeremy Clarkson might enjoy.



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Ladies and gentlemen, Landships is proud to present "Trotz Alledem," the story of Karl Liebknecht, directed by Günter Reisch. With Greek subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFZqDrIyk6k

The A7V appears at 22' 50" until 25' 00", between 25' 28" and 25' 50", between 26' 40" and 27' 15", briefly at 31' 45", and finally at 32' 50". I shan't spoil the ending.

Other items of interest are an amusing armoured car and an arguably out of place machine gun.

I have to say that this A7V doesn't look as if it's the one at Milovice.

 

 

 



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Oh, there was two replicas! One with a gun in the front and one with two MG. Photo #1_A7V_Heck shows the exhaust system of the T-34.



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