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The Photograph is from the Tennessee State Library and Archives and is titled, (Three hundred and first Tank Battalion. America's heavies going into action at Souplet on the morning of October 17, 1918. Note the American flag flying from one of the tanks.  St, Souplet, Nord, France. ) The Photograph is named Ajax Helper.

I see a striped flag, but to me it lacks the Stars? any info would help on this.

 

John              

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Agreed . . . no stars!  must've been a stormy night and the stars didn't come out . . .

 

Bosun Al



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Hello John,

I think the stripes and starts could be both there.

The flag is floating on the wind and the part with the stars, close to the pole it is attached to, is in a direct line with the camera.

Could that be the case?

Best regards,

Willem



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There doesn't seem to be enough dark, presumably red, stripes. I can see only 5, and the shape the flag has taken doesn't seem to account for that.



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That is the way I see it too James,



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Well, then what would a flag with those stripes mean on a tank?
It is, as far as i know, not a known signal flag. Anyone?
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Willem

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Could this been some sort of an army signal flag?  I'm pretty sure it wasn't a naval one of that period.

 

Bosun Al



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Looks like a US Cavalry flag with the stars hiding in the top right blur.



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I would suggest it is a commander's vehicle identification flag, it doesn't have the thirnteen stripes of the former British colonies, so isn't the US national flag. Plus the wind is blowing from the right and the flag is at near full flight, there is no set of stars in the upper right quadrant.

 

 

Cheers,

Chris



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I thought Helen had it, but I don't think so now. The cavalry guidon is just like a stars-and-stripes with a triangular cutout, so the 13 stripes and the canton containing the stars should still be visible. I'd agree with Green Acorn that it's an improv flag of some kind, maybe inspired by the stars-and-stripes. Unless it was a full flag and the top half has been shot away . . .



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The IWM caption on their copy of this photograph reads

'Tanks of US 301st Tk Bn going into action at St. Souplet'

301st Tk Bn operated in 59th US Brigade, 30th US Division, II US Corps, attached 4th British Army. They operated 20 tanks during

2nd battle of Cambrai



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