Landships II

MooreTanks · Lieutenant-Colonel

Help needed - 8019 F41 Fray Bentos II Mark IV Male

Willem Visser · Brigadier

Helo Craig,
Dutch engineers? Are they building it in Holland?
Coming from Holland myself, could you tell me where these engineers are working on this replica?
Hope to hear,
Willem

Alpha Six · Lieutenant-Colonel

Why 8019 Fray Bentos II? It was losted at Cambre as I know. May be 2329 Fray Bentos?

MooreTanks wrote:
A Dutch group of engineers are building a working 1:1 exterior replica of 8019 F41 Fray Bentos II Mark IV Male for the 100year anniversary of the tank action near their town.

Gwyn Evans · Legend

I presume this is the replica being built by Johann van Beselaere and the Poelcapelle 1917 Association - in which case it's in Flanders, Belgium. Fray Bentos (2329) was indeed lost near there (I know that Johann has identified the location), but 8019 Fray Bentos II wasn't. That was lost (as correctly pointed out by Alpha Six/Denis) at Cambrai in November/December 1917.

There are no known photos but as a Foster's built Male it would have all the hallmarks of an early Mark IV, e.g. envelope radiator.

Gwyn

James H · Legend

I wasn't aware that any tank actions took place in The Netherlands. If it's the Poelcapelle project you're thinking of, we've been following it since 2008.

http://p1917a.blogspot.co.uk/

https://m.facebook.com/pages/Tank-Poelkapelle/424031071039385

-- Edited by James H on Sunday 11th of June 2017 09:24:26 PM

MooreTanks · Lieutenant-Colonel

Hands Up I got it wrong. It is being built in Belgium for the town of Poelkapelle. They said "Our tank is meant to be Damon II, but for the occasion, we will turn it in into a Fray Bentos and a Deborah. All the people but the welder are volunteers, about 7 now."

Valeriy67 · Captain

German postcard WW1

Gwyn Evans · Legend

Excellent photo Valeriy, and a new one to me. But this is 8019 Fray Bentos II and not 2329 Fray Bentos. As is clearly seen, this tank has twin tubular radiators and not the early envelope radiator used on all the Foster's built Mark IVs.

Gwyn

mtaylor · Sergeant

Saw it this week. Currently under construction in a barn at Pond Fm outside Ypres. Apparently aiming to have construction finished in time for the Cambrai centenary but its going to be driven by remote control, unmanned.

nano_ury · Corporal

Hello to all of Fray Bentos I which is 2329 despite the fact that the site was found no remains of it, the tank Fray Bentos II 8019 that was captured is taken to Berlin and there before Swedish and German officers is exposed as that was the Zoo in Operation can see it in the videos of the Library of Germany to the videos. A part of the photos of the F41 Fray Bentos II in Berlin that I upload to you to see. If you want the link of the video, I can upload them too. Greetings from Fray Bentos Uruguay.
Fernando

nano_ury · Corporal

Image: map of heading: "Tank battle of Cambrai 1917"; the thrusts by German troops of English are shown.
1 subtitles: English breakthrough attempt at Cambrai failed bloody despite group of several hundred tanks.
2. subtitles: English tank attack 3 tank brigades were involved in 300-400 tanks,. Over 100 tanks were captured.
3 tanks incapable made subtitles: by artillery fire at Fontaine Notre Dame, suburb of Cambrai.
Image: Pan across the winter landscape and destroyed buildings.
4. subheads: The first German rider of enemy tanks, Sergeant Leu from the Force troops.
Image: Leu standing before a tank; He smiles at the camera.
5. subheads: safety nets, determined against pilot point of view, to disguise the preparations for the tank attack.
Image: Camouflage is laid over a tank; Officer standing with beats with his walking stick on the vehicle.
6. Subtitles: Disassemble schafts tanks.
Image: Pan over houses, road, on tanks, swing over snow-covered landscape;
two shattered brick tanks on a field.
7 subtitles: German force troops to engage in the use of enemy tanks.
Image: several soldiers with map standing before a tank; a soldier makes gesture in the area;
they enter and leave.
Camera follows the slow ride of prey tanks; Soldier in the long coat is short by the image;
Tank holds the camera; passes on camera; You can see the inscription F13 XII. continue on rough terrain. about digging.
Seen from another camera position: tank drives over stumps, uprooted a tree, passes on camera; After several attempts we hit a big tree.
The F 13 tank, team rising from a down the hatch from the vehicle.
8 subtitles: A British tank moves under its own power for loading Berlin, at the station in Cambrai. Image: A tank labeled with C14 reaches over a mountain of debris on the train platform; Soldiers accompany the vehicle.
9 subtitles: Demonstration of prey tanks by the Research Department of the Force troops before the press representatives at the exhibition halls at the Zoo in Berlin.
Image: Tank F 41 of slow driving in wintry outdoors; F 41 with raised gun; Soldier looks out of upper hatch; Tank rotates on the spot; driving backwards.

www.filmothek.bundesarchiv.de/video/583347

stijn · Corporal

Damon is almost finished! hope to have it ready next year!

www.tankpoelcapelle.be