Landships II

guest · Lieutenant

a question

Albert · Brigadier

Hello guest,

There is no info about use of these vehicles (and other early German armored cars) in WW1 in two most important books on WW1 German armored cars (by Rainer Strasheim and Heinrich Kaufhold-Roll). Of course lack of info doesn’t mean that none of them was used. I think it would be strange if all of them were just forgotten in Germany and not taken to the front. Maybe Stanislav Kirilets, who is a member of our forum and just published a book on German WW1 armored cars (I will buy it as soon as it’s available in Poland) found something more.

Best regards,
Albert

-- Edited by Albert on Friday 21st of June 2019 08:39:30 PM

guest · Lieutenant

the tinypic.com site is closed and can't remove those useless no found picture signs from the post now

CharlieC · Legend

Not all is lost - found the images via the Wayback machine

- Daimler Panzerkraftwagen 5.7cm flugzeugabwehrkanone 1906 (2dqlp1z)

- Opel Halbgepanzerter wagen 1906 (rwte0o)

- Ehrhardt Halbgepanzerter wagen 5cm flugzeugabwehrkanone 1908 (qpmk5g)

- Ehrhardt Panzerkraftwagen 5cm flugzeugabwehrkanone 1906 (rl9y8l)

And there is a free cardmodel of the Ehrhardt Panzerkampfwagen M1906 designed by Alexandr Bondar on Landships II

Regards,

Charlie

28juni14 · Hero

None of the above vehicles were produced beyond the prototypes and saw no combat service (per the late Walter Spielberger). Further vehicle developments by both Krupp and Ehrhardt resulted in the platform truck mounting the BAK in 7,7cm. Pictured is the Daimler Model 1910 with an early version of their L/27 piece. It has been pressed into combat service; despite it's obsolescence. Only a very few examples ( 2 or 3) of this vehicle were produced before the highly successful Model 1914 reached mass production; with the Daimler KW14 version appearing in greater numbers than the Ehrhardt KW14.

guest · Lieutenant

@CharlieC

thanks a lot

guest · Lieutenant

@28juni14

thanks for the information

so the Daimler Panzerkraftwagen 5.7cm flak of 1906, the Opel Halbgepanzerter wagen of 1906, the Ehrhardt Halbgepanzerter wagen 5cm flak of 1908 and the Ehrhardt Panzerkraftwagen 5cm flak of 1906 weren't world war one related

and here is the Daimler version of 1914 you are talking about:

Daimler Leicht kraftwagengeschutze 7.7cm L-27 flugzeugabwehrkanone 1914

guest · Lieutenant

neither the Davidson Tricycle of 1898, the Davidson Quadricycle of 1898, the Austro-Daimler Panzerauto of 1904 and the Burstyn Motorgeschutz of 1911 were world war one related, right?

Davidson Tricycle 1898

Davidson Quadricycle 1898

PDA · Legend

Correct; none of the vehicles you mention were used in WW1. However, some people say that these vehicles had some effect on some designs.

Albert · Brigadier

Austro-Daimler armored car might have been used in WW1, but it’s a mystery: landships.activeboard.com/t62626996/fate-of-austro-daimler-armored-car/

guest · Lieutenant

@Albert

thanks for the information

by the way the Austro-Daimler Spaherwagen of 1909 was used according to this source https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/KFT_Scout