Landships II

huhncc · Major

A7V camo question

Centurion · Legend

Photos showing the top sufaces are rare. I attach two but its difficult to make out if the tops are camo or not. Anyone got better eyesight?

Roger Todd · Legend

The attachment labelled A7V-1s appears to have some camo carried on above the hull sides. The other one may also, but it may just be discolouring or mud or something.

huhncc · Major

The one in A7V-1 is the one I am modelling. It is hard to truely tell. Anyone know what name/number it is?

Thanks guys!

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

Camouflage was also applied to the top surfaces, there are several pictures showing that. Note that 540 (the tank seen in A7V-1) had a white cross on top (the light coloured band in the mid of the turret is part of it) for aerial recognition.

Earlier camouflage schemes had two Iron Crosses on top, one on each ventilation louvre.

huhncc · Major

Thanks Mad Zeppelin!

Mark Hansen · Legend

mad zeppelin wrote:

Camouflage was also applied to the top surfaces, there are several pictures showing that. Note that 540 (the tank seen in A7V-1) had a white cross on top (the light coloured band in the mid of the turret is part of it) for aerial recognition. Earlier camouflage schemes had two Iron Crosses on top, one on each ventilation louvre.

Are you sure that the tank is 540? 540 is listed in your book as a multi-piece body tank and the tank in that photo is listed in the same book as 503.

Date: Jun 14, 2006

What book is this?

Mark Hansen · Legend

"The German A7V tank and the captured British Mark IV tanks of World War I" by Hundleby and Strasheim.

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

If I remember correctly, Max Hundleby has published the change 503 - 540 in a Tankette-article that appeared after the puiblication of "The German A7V...". Anyway, I'm sure that the tank in A7V-1 is 540. Accordingly, the tank called 540 in "The German A7V..." is 503. - Its the only change so far, all other A7Vs seem to be identified correctly.

Mark Hansen · Legend

So I should read 503 for 540 and vice versa each time in "The German A7V..."? Does this also mean that 502's body was fitted to 540 instead of 503?

mad zeppelin · Commander in Chief

The issue of 502 becoming 540 is undecided at the moment, the scarce information available is contradictory.

Centurion · Legend

probably some mad scheme to hide some extra A7Vs for Poland

Government health warning: ideas like this can rot your brain and should only be accepted by experienced conspiracy theorists and readers of the da Vinci Code.

elbavaro · Commander in Chief

mad zeppelin wrote:

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Earlier camouflage schemes had two Iron Crosses on top, one on each ventilation louvre.

You are right. I have a picture in my collection which shows a big Iron Cross on the ventilation louvre. It shows A7V 528 Hagen in September 1918 near Bancourt.

-- Edited by elbavaro at 23:19, 2008-10-12

Date: Nov 16, 2010

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