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I found this when brousing for something entirely different. It seems to be part of someone's holiday snaps - but does any one have any idea what the gun is?


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Please re-post: the image didn't appear!

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I'll try again and attach it as well.


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 It appears to be 120mm. The "ceintures de roue" tell us it is French.  The jacketed rohr suggests it is not a 120mm de Bange example, and the 16 spoked wheels are odd too (de Bange wheels were 12 for the 120mm and 14 for the 155mm).   It almost looks like an old Krupp piece sold to Belgium at the turn of the century.  Can't  tell if the trunion supports are solid or framed ala Krupp.


Likely a Schnieder piece, but would have to see a better view of the trail, and if a lifting hook is over the breach.   Good find..... 



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 It appears to be 120mm. The "ceintures de roue" tell us it is French.  The jacketed rohr suggests it is not a 120mm de Bange example, and the 16 spoked wheels are odd too (de Bange wheels were 12 for the 120mm and 14 for the 155mm).   It almost looks like an old Krupp piece sold to Belgium at the turn of the century.  Can't  tell if the trunion supports are solid or framed ala Krupp. Likely a Schnieder piece, but would have to see a better view of the trail, and if a lifting hook is over the breach.   Good find..... 

Or Belgian (which would fit with the old Krupp piece sold to Belgium ) or even Swiss. I had thought of Krupp as there is an equipment in the Citadel in Cairo that has a similar tube (although the carriage is very different) which is of Krupp origin.

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I have looked at the photo, and I conclude that it is a commercial Krupp 12cm model (it does not match the de Bange weapons, the Austro-Hungarian guns of this type, nor their Italian equivalents, nor the commercial Schneider siege pieces). From the few details visible, the carriage is of the sort used for their commercial siege gun exports (note large triangular opening in the side member of the carriage; I was in Brussels a few years ago and in front of the Army museum they have some Krupp siege and garrison 120mm and 149mm guns; all had this characteristic). To be totally certain of the type one would need to be able to see the breech ring and the trail. Reading the markings on the ordnance would be helpful as well. The trunions on this gun seem to be solidly mounted.

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