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Sometime between 1920 and '21 a sale was organised at Aldershot to dispose of war surplus vehicles. Looking a photos one notices some interesting items including a Hornsby tractor an Erhardt chassis and some US trucks. However I spotted some even stranger items and enclose photos.


The first is either a stripped down Uberlandwagen (or an A7V minus armour). One wonders what it was doing at Aldershot and who bought it.


However look at the next two shots. The first shows the Uberlandwagen but what are those two larger tracked vehicles next to it? The second is a blow up of the first. I cannot Id these two vehicles. They have a boxy superstructure (armoured?). I cannot match them to any British, German, US  or French vehicle of the time. They are quite substantial and bigger than the Uberlandwagen and say a gun carrier or a Dragon tractor. Any ideas?



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Hello Centurion


   They are Lanz Gleisketten-Schleppers.


All the Best


Tim R



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Can you enlighten me further?

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Very interesting!
The first looks, as you have said, as a stripped-down A7V or a (as my book names them) gelandewagen - of which at least 8 were built. Perhaps these were tested out and gave rise to the Dragon Mechanised hauler.
It is stated in "Moving the Guns" that various foreign vehicles were obtained for testing. Perhaps these were the vehicles being disposed of?
Excellent pictures that prove that there is still stuff from the WWI era that is not generally well known.
Tony

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I have the first pic in my collection too( get it afrom you, Tim ?).  I've always dismissed it as an armourless A7V chassis.   As Tim has said, literally tons of German vehicles, and guns were removed to Britain in 1919 for evaluation; just as they were in the USA at Aberdeen.  It may be a good guess they got about as much serious attention at the first location as the latter.


 



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Which gives rise to two questions (at least)


Which A7V chassis?
What was it doing in a sale of surplus vehicles? It would be interested to see the entry in the original sales catalogue. "one careless owner, low mileage, would suit one wishing to build their own tank'


Interesting that there were at least three other tracked vehicles in the sale - the Hornsby tractor and the two Schleppers.


 



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The chassis in the first picture is from an Uberlandwagen. It still has the wooden floor fitted to the chassis. The A7V chassis also had angled plates above the bogies to fix the armoured body to instead of the vertical plates shown on this chassis.

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Mark Hansen wrote:


The chassis in the first picture is from an Uberlandwagen. It still has the wooden floor fitted to the chassis. The A7V chassis also had angled plates above the bogies to fix the armoured body to instead of the vertical plates shown on this chassis.


Thanks - confirms my first thought in my first posting - got led astray by subseqent postings. Now can any one tell me something, anything, about those Schleppers that Tim named?

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That image appears in the Wheel & Tracks Number 25 issue, which deals heavily with the A7V and Uberlandwagon mechanics.

I too always wondered what those big tractors were, I'd enjoy seeing more photos of them.

---Vil.

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Hello Gentlemen


 


Sorry, I have not got back to you on the Lanz Gleisketten-Schleppers, I have been quite under the weather as of late. I will do my best to get some information and other photos for you soon,


 


I have been working on the Holt Monsters so look forward to a new article soon.


All the Best


Tim R



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Centurion


 


Information on the Lanz Gleisketten-Schleppers is forth coming, meanwhile, I have attached two photos of the Lanz Gleisketten-Schlepper for you.


All the Best


Tim R



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 Remarkably modern-looking vehicles in many respects. Glad to hear about the Holt monsters article too. Hope you get to felling better soon, Tim.



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That's a very interesting vehicle !

Thank you very much for posting the pics Tim!

---Vil.

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