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Great work Helen, the design of the sponsons makes much more sense when you see the top view drawing, with the offset rotation for the machine guns.......this would give maximum firepower straight ahead when moving forward - of course at the same time restrict the movement of the forward machine gun if attacked from behind.

What amazes me from my short time on the Forum is just how little accurate information there is about the First World War Tanks. I thought a question like 'how many links to a track?' would have had a direct and straightforward answer, but it appears not. (yes I know now 90; or 89 or 91, give or take) but seriously, its taken almost 100 years to really get some accurate drawings together.
Its also an eyeopener that the big model builders are inaccurate with the positioning of rivets, additional rivets, hatches added and pistol ports missing - I know its only detail, but thats what its all about in my book - DETAIL.

............blimey, at this rate I'm going to be joining the ranks of the 'rivet counters', in fact I have already started - fascinating stuff.

I never stop learning

kind regards Kev



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Not just the rivets - bolts don't seem to feature in model manufacturer's minds either, never mind their accurate placing - and that's before we get on to the accurate depiction of machine guns and gun barrels.

Add to that the decision of Interus to produce 23,5" wide tracks and I start to wonder about what is absolutely correct on these models?



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The Pistol port is missing from plate 18 A.

 



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Hero

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Oops! Sorry Peter, yes I've known for some time that the front pistol port is missing, there is also errors in the drivers flaps. Just updating them now... If I can... proving awkward for some reason. :-/

Helen x



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Hello Helen,

I must say it is real nice work your Mark 1!

Maybe you could help me? I am searching for photos and measurements of left sponson of Mark 1.
Please help me if you can.

Thank you!

Best regards,

Ernst

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Hi Ernst, Sorry about the delay.

The Left and Right Sponsons are exactly the same in everything accept one part, which has a different angle due to the Gun Sites.

If you follow the link and look at the tenth post down, you will find a drawing a made to show the only difference between the Sponsons. LINK

If your building a model, then look at my plans, then at Wayne's Card Model to help with understanding them in a 3D way.

I will try and post some photos for you.

Helen x

 



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Hi Helen,

Thank you so much for your reply!
I will be glad to get from you some photos of left sponson, too.

Best regards,

Ernst

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Hi Helen,
pls check PM.

Best regards,

Ernst

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Hello Helen.

Can  You  show me how  looks  the  System that lifts the Tail Steering Unit  with all  pipes. 

Especially the place where the tubes enter into the hull.

Really all three pipes merge into one in front of the body as drawn in the scheme?

 

P.S.  Sorry for my bad English.

 



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So Sorry, I've only just noticed your posting.

The pipes do all go through the same hole in the rear plate, I will get a photo and drawing together for tomorrow.

Just noticed I've somehow unticked on updates for this thread. no

 

Helen x



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Hi, I've not been able to find a good clear photo of the pipe work, but those you have are correct and good to use.

The attached drawing is of the rear plate, on which I have marked in red the hole the pipes run through. 

Hope that helps and you are still building.

Helen x

 



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Thanks for the reply.

 You mean something like this?

This hole?



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Hi, This has been a great forum to read as i am trying to get an accurate design of the MkI completed. Helen you have done a great job with the plans. Do you now have a complete up to set and if possible in eps format? How has your project progressed?


Simon.



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Hi Simon,

Sorry for the delay. To be honest the plans have been pushed to one side by the building of the 1/6 scale model. At some point the 3D model from which I built the radio controlled one will become the source of a final set of plans.

The radio controlled model build has caused me to look again at some of my details and measurements and the final plans will be as accurate as is humanly possible.

You say you're trying to get an accurate design together, may I ask what it is for?

Helen x

 



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Hi Helen,

Thanks for the reply. Since I last posted last night I have seen your RC model running on Facebook, it looks great. I am doing a design for a challenge coin for for the centenary of the first tank battle at Flers–Courcelette on 15 September 2016. I have sent a friend request and messaged to you via Facebook with a similar design of a MKV that is in postion (see attached) I want to draw up digitally the Mk1 Male. I want to get the design right.  I have downloaded you plans from this forum and put them together in Photoshop as one plan image, see attached.  I struggled to get the top drawing to work so used a plan view I found on the net.  Not sure how accurate it is?  Having seen your model I am after a photo or two of your model that I could draw up from, from ground level point of view.  If the coin goes into production you will be one of the first to have one.

See attached documents

Many thanks

Simon x (Gardiner)



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Hero

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Hi Simon,

The Sponsons in particular are a challenge to get the right shape, can I suggest you take a look at Wayne's Card Model  as I gave him a hand to get it right. His model is missing the 'L' shape return flange that goes around the outer edge, but a quick way of getting a model in 3D that fits together. 

I will try and put a side, rear and plan view up today or tomorrow some time.

Any questions just ask.

Helen x

 



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Hi Helen

great work, I used to teach male and female Eng.cadets, wish i could have found your site earlier, grandad owes his survival, to the fact that they discovered he  could repair these, but not before he had some, experiences in the trenches, dad and my uncles and aunts played on the MKIV in Gloucester pk, which my dad thought was scrapped.

i came to site just for details of the final drive, ( i am not a modeller, have restored a few things, Austin K2y I am most pleased with, and obsessed with its history) just had to know how the tanks worked, would like more info on the MK V gearbox now, but a chap I know has a tank book( pre WW II) so will hopefully get what i want from that.

All the Best with your modelling,

regs

Rupert



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