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Do these two photos show the same tank?  I have difficulty in making up my mind!

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They do look awful similar but if so someone has had a tidy up around the second and removed lots of posts, wire etc etc also a small tree or two in the surroundings

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Hi All, I would say they are the same tank largely from the the wire on the left track and unditching beam, notice the position of the chain....
although I think that b is some considerable time later perhaps even post war
 the area around the tank appears to have been levelled ...is that a spade to the left ? perhaps some enterprising farmer took a picture whilst wondering what to do with the half buried metal monstersmile

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The barbed wire tangle on the sponson looks the same as in the first and the unditching beam is in the same location. The spuds that are visible in both photos sit at the same locations. I think Ironsides is correct in suggesting that the second photo was taken a fair time after the first. I would say that the second was taken after the area was under British or French control.

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Hi All, Mark Hanson wrote:

"I would say that the second was taken after the area was under British or French control."

Not so sure about that in my experience the Germans have a tendency to tidy up pretty wellbiggrin

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-- Edited by Ironsides at 02:04, 2007-05-03

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Gibot and Gorczynski caption this photo as I28 "Incomparable", commanded by Lt. George Parsons, and lost at Bourlon on Nov.24, 1917. They give this account of the action: "The following day, early in the morning, the tanks were crossing the Bapaume - Cambrai road when a group of eight tanks broke away to take the road along the west of the wood. They lined up in single file, with    I28 fifth in line.
"Just as they reached the top of the hill, Parsons saw Major Vandervelland Captain Kean running towards them, ashen faced and panic-stricken. They had been at the edge of Bourlon when an enemy shell had passed through their group, and taken off Captain Monaghan's head. Parsons was surprised by their reaction, feeling they should not have left the group of tanks without an officer even after witnessing something so appalling. With no one in command, and not knowing what to do next, the tanks came to a halt. After a minute or two, Parsons started up his tank again, and began moving 'Incomparable' along the embankment to the left of the road in order to avoid becoming a target. As they arrived at the top, they found the enemy about 200 paces away, with the village just below them.
"Remnants of smoke drifted about, and all seemed calm. The driver set off at maximum speed, and they fired their machine guns constantly in the direction of the village. 'Incomparable' was making its way between the road and the first houses of the village when it suddenly slipped on the edge of a covered trench, and came to rest at an angle of 45 degrees. The engine stalled, and all attempts to restart it proved futile. The German machine guns fired relentlessly on the immobilised tank, and Lt. Parsons gave the order to evacuate. Only two of his men were wounded."
Note the German photographer's car in the background. Apparently, the tanks were photographed as part of the process of cataloguing them for recovery.  

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Here are two more photos of I 28


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Thanks everyone for the information provided on this.

Here's another photo I found tonight whilst looking at "Fighting Tanks" by G. Murray Wilson (London, 1929).  Is this I28 after the gunners got busy, presumably putting it beyond use of the Germans?

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The number certainly looks like I28. And the gunners or whoever totalled it have definitely had a dog in a manger attitude; understandable of course.

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Hi noticed this on ebay looks like another picture of "Inconparable" from another angle maybe with less time past since it ditched....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WW1-POSTCARD-BRITISH-TANK-IN-TANK-TRAP_W0QQitemZ180135869709QQihZ008QQcategoryZ60663QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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