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I found that photograph of a armored truck at the Bundesarchiv. Does anybody know more about this vehicle? It was used during the Kapp-Putsch in 1920.

 

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This is "Behelfspanzerauto" (Ersatz), buil on a chassis of Benz-Gaggenau.

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Thank you Ivan fort hat information. Are there other photographs of that truck?

By the way: Here something similar from Switzerland in 1919.

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Hello Peter

  Here are a few other Armored  "Behelfspanzerauto"

   Daimler 3 tons and 5 tons

By the way were did you get the photo, very interesting.
all the best
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Hello Tim

Thanks for the photos. You can find the armored truck at:

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/

(Search: Kapp-Putsch)


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Hello Peter

   I'm sorry, I ment the one from Switzerland , I have an original of the one from the Bundesarchiv.
Thanks..
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Tim R wrote:

Hello Peter

  Here are a few other Armored  "Behelfspanzerauto"

   Daimler 3 tons and 5 tons

By the way were did you get the photo, very interesting.
all the best
Tim R


I think, the last picture is Daimler only! First three photos are no Daimlers. All Daimler trucks more as 2 ton from 1899 to 1925 was with "Ritzel" system. Here I see typical  trucks. It possible Benz-Gaggenau, MAN-Saurer, NAG, Dixi, Ehrhardt, Büssing and others trucks.
Here the pictures of Ritzel-system, patent Daimler.



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By the way were did you get the photo, very interesting.
all the best
Tim R
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Hello Tim
There is only one photo of that swiss truck existing. Could be a Saurer or Berna. Unfortunately it's a scan out of a book that is available only in Switzerland: "Motorfahrzeuge in der Schweizer Armee 1898-1937". I could send you a better copy if you want by mail, but I won't post it here because of the copyrights.

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Hello Ivan

 

   I can not argue with that, except I am very certain that the two in the center are Daimlers, all photos and information I have concerning them, state they were build on Daimler chassis But I and the information could be wrong???

Do you have any photos showing these improvised Armored cars??? 


Hello Peter

 

 I understand, I would like a clearer photo if possible, I would be glade to pay for the photocopying and postage. Also are there any other good photos from that 1898 until ww2 as well as information on them????

I am very interestedbiggrin 

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Tim R wrote:

Hello Ivan

   I can not argue with that, except I am very certain that the two in the center are Daimlers, all photos and information I have concerning them, state they were build on Daimler chassis But I and the information could be wrong???

Do you have any photos showing these improvised Armored cars??? 



Hi Tim,

first photo..., yes, Daimler - I see closed back-wheels - typical for Daimler with "Ritzel-Antrieb". 2nd and 3rd photos - I see circuit ("Ketten-Antrieb") - it is no Daimler. I know, in books wroten "all german Befehl-PzWagen" was Daimler cry, it is falsh!
All Daimler and Daimler-Marienfelde german trucks more as 2 ton (also english Milnes-Daimker, austrian Austro-Daimler, russian Lessner-Daimler, sweden Hedlund-Daimler, italian de Luca-Daimler from 1900 to 1922 have RITZEL!
Maybe it is Daimler little trucks chassis with circuit?

P.S. 4x4 Military Daimler and Krupp-Daimler have cardans...




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What it is?
I think it is armoured AEC-Lorry. Maybe Albion, or Leyland?

British troops in France, 1914.

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I think that is a heavily converted AEC B Type bus.

Tim (too)

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Caption says "steel shelter auto of commandant Samason which killed many uhlans!"
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