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EDUARDO MAMORETTI


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Hello all gentlemen,
I look forward to get some info on the Lefebvre half-track series. Having seen a sketch I find the vehicule quite interesting.
Will greatly appreciate any colaboration,
best regards

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Hello Ed,

i must tell you that the "Marienwagen " is not known by the military-historical museum

in Dresden

best regards yours old chap

Gerd

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This is the marienwagen that presumably Dresden doesn't recognise. A four tacked version was also built and then an armoured version the Bremer Uberland Sturm Panzerwagen. Not sure how this relates to Lefebvre tractors

-- Edited by Centurion at 17:50, 2008-07-08

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EDUARDO MAMORETTI


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THank You Gerd & Centurion!
Well basically Lafettenheini's quote is about my almost finished Marienwagen(or at least an attempt to model one)...He has been researched as well as other comrades in the forum(see references), a help which I greatly appreciate.
So ther is not any relationshipe betwen both vehicules eçxcept I whçish I could model a Lefebvre also...By the way, waht an unexpected and nice photo of the Marienwagen II!
Tahnk You both a lot,
EDUARDO

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Eduardo

  Hello my friend, he is all I have on the Tracteurs de Lefebvre.

Lefebvre Tractor:


In July 1914 a tractor made its apperance which could have been the answer to the French artillery testing commission's quest for a vehicle with good cross-country performance in any condition. This vehicle also had the distinction of being the first with the half-track configuration, though it also had rear wheels. Mechanically it was based on Schneider tractor parts. Its designer, Lefebvre, was inspired by the American Holt crawler tractor. The Lefebvre tractor had steel wheels for normal o running but carried crawler tracks at the rear which were arranged to run a round small bogie wheels attached to a pivoted frame structure. The front end of the frame could raised or lowered by worm gearing from handles adjacent to the driving position. On coming to rough ground, the driver would lower the track frames. To give added traction, ballest weights could be carried in a box at the rear. Though intended for agricultural work, It was suggested to the Army that the Lefebvre Half-track tractor be examined and evaluated for military service. The proposal coincided with the outbreak of the First World War, and in the rush to mobilise, nothing was done about this promising design.

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Tim R.



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EDUARDO MAMORETTI


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Ah my friend!
Thank You a lot, the material submitted is superb, not only erase a lot of doubdts but also incresased my interest.
From a comrade scratchbuilder to another,
thank You!

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You are very welcome my friend.
All the Best
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Tim R wrote:

In July 1914 a tractor made its apperance which could have been the answer to the French artillery testing commission's quest for a vehicle with good cross-country performance in any condition. This vehicle lso had the distinction of being the first with the half-track configuration,

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-- Edited by Tim R at 16:47, 2008-07-09

I'm not trying to br picky but wasn't the steam powered 1901 Lombard log hauler the first half track? These were later re engined to become internal combustion half tracks and some used by the Russians



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Centurion

  I can not answer that, I only typed what was written. An I see it was not all that greatashamed........lso 
I am sorry to all about the type O'SSSSSSSSSSSSS

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Simple question but what does lso stand for? Not the London Symphony Orchestra I suspect

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Hello Ed and comrades,

News about investigation about the " Marienwagen" . Dresden warhistorical museeum had researched for me in Koblenz and Koblenz called back for phone tomorrow.

In Dresden they never had heard about a Marienwagen biggrin  I had to explain :

One of the first half track lorrys of WWI .yawn..............

So my dear friends thre is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Best regards to all

Gerd

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Centurion wrote:

Simple question but what does lso stand for? Not the London Symphony Orchestra I suspect

-- Edited by Centurion at 19:26, 2008-07-09



I hope not......its also!wink

All the Best
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winkwink!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice a day Gentlemen,

ISO ? Like ISO FRACHETTI ? ISO RIVOLTA ? ( more a joke cause they are old

italian sport cars)biggrin

It is in my opinion an italian industrial shortence like S.P.A.

May be i am wrong.idea

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Gerd

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Hello Ed ,

i called Koblenz but the same misknowledge as at my first call there.

I hope i can take a personally look in the great archive next week.

as i told allready 25000 books and over 600000 plans and documents......

Best regards (esspecially to PEPO )

Gerd

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