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Greetings,
Attached is a picture of an armored car that has stumped me for an identification. An old car enthusiast thought there were hints of "Cadillac" but that is as much information as I have gathered on it.

Does anyone have any suggestions or can offer a positive identification?

THank you!
John A-G

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John A-G.
Hudson, WI USA



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I think, the chassis is "Hudson" - typical "triangel"-logo.

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Well spotted that man, at first I thought it was a Cadilac.... but as Ivan ses there is the hudson logo plate barely visible on the Radiator, just to confirm it heres a Hudson or two.... a Hudson 1913 modelI think...
http://www.hudson-cars.com/hudson-automobiles.html

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-- Edited by Ironsides on Wednesday 10th of June 2009 03:44:23 PM

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Well done, Ivan and Ironsides! My co-worker is the editor of Old Cars Weekly here in the States. I will send him the picture and see what he can tell us.

Thank you so much!
John

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I wrote to my buddy who is the publisher/editor of Prewar Auto Notes magazine

Here is what he had to say abou the vehicle:

"I can see why you would think it's a Hudson, with that triangular badge, but I'm very sure that it isn't. Hudson's triangle badge wasn't that big. Also, the hubcaps don't look like Hudson caps, according to the photos in my Hudson Crestline. "

"The frame horns look very Hudson, but the drop-center front axle doesn't; neither do the shock absorbers."

"The big clue here is the chain-drive rear end. Hudson never had chain drive; neither did Cadillac at this time. It's possible, I suppose, that the government told Hudson to make it chain drive, but I doubt it."

"After doing some thinking and snooping, I'm very sure the car is a Simplex. I thought about all of the big, expensive cars at that time that still used chain drive, so I checked out Simplex in the Standard Catalog 1805-1942. Sure enough, the radiator shell has the same shape, there's chain drive, a drop-center front axle, same frame horns, same hubcaps and front fenders, and, quite prominently, a very large triangle badge at the top of the radiator."

"I think the mystery is solved."


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I just happened to see this site thru Goggle and am very pleased to at long last find a photo of this armored Simplex which was written up with no photoin the September 2, 1915, MOTOR AGE magazine.Does anyone know where this photo was found? It no doubt originated at the Plattsburg Army Base, NY. Thank you. Bill Bell, Simplex automobile historian.



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Bill wrote:

Does anyone know where this photo was found?


I would guess from other threads that Jagjetta probably has a printed copy of the photo; you could try send him a Personal Message to ask.



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Hi Bill,

Send me a note at militarycollector@gmail.com

 

I will be happy to share a high res copy of the image. The original photo is in my collection

 

john

 



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