Landships II

mustafa931 · Corporal

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MTorrent · Lieutenant-Colonel

2. All I know, that Turkey bought some old French tanks in 1921, mentioned in Heigl's Taschenbuch der Tanks. I suppose them to be FT 17s.

4. Depending on sources: 230-250 pieces.

LincolnTanker · Commander in Chief

I was told that a ship sank in the River Thames with, I think, 2 MarkIVs on board, has any one more info?

ChrisG

MarkV · Lieutenant-Colonel

Howdy,

On a related note, according to what I've read online, there were several FT-17s abandonded along the coast of Norway at the end of WWII (on land, not in the water).� The Germans had used the old, captured French tanks as emplaced bunkers.� I'm not sure if they are still there -� but they were about 20 years ago or so.

A few years ago I learned of a FT-17 buried under a European roadway, but as there is a nearby museum interested in recovering it the next time the road is repaired, I'll say no more about it.

On an even less related note, there are supposed to be a couple of Rolls Royce armoured cars on the sunken freighter Thistlegorm in the Red Sea.� I have seen a few photos of these vehicles but I see no resemblence to the standard Rolls Royce armoured cars.� (If anyone has a better photo, plese let me know!)

Alledged Rolls Royce Armoured Car

More Thistlegorm Photos:
http://www.google.com/images?q=Thistlegorm&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbs=isch:1&ei=NkY_TPa0OJD4sAP6r-3KAw&sa=N&start=60&ndsp=20

MarkV

kieffer · Commander in Chief

Hi MarkV,

all I know is that Renault Ft 17 cupolas were used on the Atlantikwall. The whole tank, this I don't know,(but a possibility I guess) though quite a few were used as second line defence or (gun removed) as command posts. Renault R35 or 39 cupolas were used too. These bunkers were called Tobruk.

Kieffer

LincolnTanker · Commander in Chief

Here's a link to the Finnmark FT-17

http://www.arcticwar.com/report_narvik.html

James H · Legend

This is a pic from that site on surviving FTs that I couldn't remember

http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_FT-17.pdf

It takes a long time to download.

There are pics of over 40 surviving vehicles. Photos 2 & 3 are of examples in Norway, plus the one shown below.

I read somewhere that the last occasion on which an FT fired in anger was in the 1950s somewhere.

kieffer · Commander in Chief

this is an Ft turret in the Atlantik Wall, near the river Scheldt, the entrance to Antwerp.
The Scheldt Pocket, as called by the Allies was a bitter figthing area in 1944.
But both turret and bunker are gone, standing in the way of the dam and dyke building program the Dutch worked out after the war.