Landships II

James H · Legend

"Interesting" Replica Italian Tanks

kieffer · Commander in Chief

That's the movie with Anthony Quinn playing the Lybian Omar Mukhtar, standing up against the Italians led by Graziana, played by Oliver Reed isn't it?

Ironsides · Legend

I think the Fiats are'nt that bad for movie props, clearly the turrets are just boxes though but maybe the budget didnt extend that far, would anyone like to make a guess as to what they are based on,�some kind of small catapillar tractor perhaps?

Any way theres a wrecked�one here Fiat� and a lancia�
posted�on this thread by Runflat... Im suprised these have survived at all..

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=63528&p=3&topicID=18182805

"Lion Of The Desert" a moving and at the same time disturbing film, perhaps it comes too close to the truth....

Cheers

Poniatowski · Major

Not bad, but could be a lot better. Just a little work on the return run of the track and idlers could make a big difference.
Of course, it's much better than using something like a modern Scorpion or something.

Ron

Hughbearson · General

It must be said that the Italians do make (or have made, at least) very good war films. I insist that you try tracking down "Uomini Contro (Literally- Contrary Men)" English title "Many Wars Ago". A beautiful piece of cinematography, if not very dark and tragic.

Rather unsettling comments on the link mind, but hey, its YouTube.

-- Edited by Hughbearson on Monday 23rd of August 2010 04:53:17 PM

-- Edited by Hughbearson on Monday 23rd of August 2010 04:53:49 PM

Rectalgia · Legend

Hughbearson wrote:

It must be said that the Italians do make (or have made, at least) very good war films. I insist that you try tracking down "Uomini Contro (Literally- Contrary Men)" English title "Many Wars Ago". A beautiful piece of cinematography, if not very dark and tragic.

Yes, we looked at that in connection with Jame's "Cybermen" / Farina armour topic Hugh and maybe in another one too. I agree with you and/but I am also aware that criticisms of "high command" - cf. recent commentary in the forum on Douglas Haig - are devilish hard to regard as more than the populist expression of the standards of a later time and often rendered in isolation of many of the real-word factors and exigencies that applied in those earlier times. Criticism made closer to the time of the action by participants may be coloured by "survivor guilt" and/or post-traumatic stress which is uncannily pervasive amongst veterans (though often undetected except retrospectively by, arguably, actuarial analysis/morbidity statistics).

Nevertheless such criticisms are essential to inform and test the evolving social awareness. But of course we shouldn't neglect to also test the criticism or we descend into myth - though maybe that's not a wholly-bad thing, "Myth, more memorable than the truth and less mutable," as I like to taunt professional historians

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