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FT-17 variant.
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Vad är det?
At first I thought it was an FT-75 BS, but it seems not...



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Hi Hugh its one discarded prototype version for the Renault FT 75BS the final accepted version is of course different...

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Ahh...
Thanks.

-- Edited by Hughbearson on Tuesday 24th of August 2010 09:36:57 PM

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Look here:

http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=688&Itemid=36&limit=1&limitstart=3



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Fortunately it's not British. I don't dare to think what BS would have stood for in that case.


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In English English, 'BS' stands for 'British Standards'. As in "BS3998 Recommendations For Tree Work".

If it was American English that might be another matter!

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Or Australian English.

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Renault used a lettering system for its projects. From 1899 till 1905 products were given a letter between A to Z, then till 1935 double letters from AA till ZZ and further on three letters. The code was given to the design, not the effectuated vehicle. So the FT was between the truck FU and a car FS.
But things were flexible: the design could change during realisation, the code remaining the same. Or codes were altered when the number of modifications grew.
Where the BS here stands for I don't know, may be it is Bis, or just a letter combination and not an abbreviation.
I read this in a Histoire et Collections volume, l'AMR 33 Renault. (here AMR is an abbreviation for automitraileuse reconnaissance, I think the military code, the Renault itself was a VM)

regards, Kieffer

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Thanks for the info Kieffer. Military abbreviations can be very confusing.

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I believe the BS stands for "Blockhouse Schneider" although i may not have the spelling right....

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The BS refers to the gun, the Blockhaus Schneider, many of which were salvaged from unserviceable CA1s. The Tank itself was still an FT, so the vehicle's full title was FT 75 BS.

It was intended to double as a bridgelayer - in some photos you can see the pivot for the bridge just behind the idler - but I don't think any were produced in time to see action.


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James H wrote:
I don't think any were produced in time to see action.
I wonder if any saw action in the Rif War?

 



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"many of which were salvaged from unserviceable CA1s"

Hi James interesting i was thinking that myself as it looks like the same gun, but have no proof... whats your source for that?


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All info acc. to Trackstory book.

The BS was, indeed, used in the Rif War and up to 1940 in FT units.

In July 1918 plans were made to increase each FT unit to 2 MGs, 3 37mm Canon, and 1 BS. Trials were still incomplete in Sep 1918, and the author deduces that very few or none at all saw action. The idea of using the CA1 guns was apparently Estienne's.

M Danjou says that 600 were made but in 1921 only 39 were listed as fit for action.

That's all I can come up with at the mo. I'll see if Chars de France has got any more.

P.S. Jeudy confirms the 75s being ex-CA1.

This is how the bridge was supposed to work, but I haven't seen any actual photos. The idea was dropped after the war, since trench warfare was deemed a thing of the past. But the fascine carrier was trialled in the 1930s.






-- Edited by James H on Friday 27th of August 2010 12:02:44 PM

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