Landships II

James H · Legend

Schneider & St Chamond SPGs

CharlieC · Legend

I don't think they were quite ready at the end of WW1. they certainly saw service in WW2 though - the 194mm GPF armed SPG was used in the Siege of Leningrad. Do you know anything about the author - I'd love to have that info on Landships II.

Regards,

Charlie

James H · Legend

I've had a root round the site, but can't get very far because it's mostly in Czech or something akin. Would you like me to join and see if I can make contact?

J

PDA · Legend

James H wrote:

Would you like me to join and see if I can make contact?

J

Yes.

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kieffer · Commander in Chief

CharlieC wrote:

I don't think they were quite ready at the end of WW1. they certainly saw service in WW2 though - the 194mm GPF armed SPG was used in the Siege of Leningrad. Do you know anything about the author - I'd love to have that info on Landships II.

Regards,

Charlie

according to Ian Hogg: it is believed a few Schneiders were used at the St Mihiel salient, supporting the Americans in 1918, and a few St.Chamonds have seen combat too, shortly before the Armistice. May be Guy can tell us more?

regards, Kieffer

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James H · Legend

I've emailed the bloke, but no reply so far.

CharlieC · Legend

Looking at the articles on the St Chamond SPGs - there were something like 75-80 units built. Each unit consisted of a tow vehicle with ammunition and the gun carrier with no engine/generator but with the electric motors. So something like 150 or so St Chamond hulls would be required for these

Anyone know whether the St Chamond hulls came from recycled tanks or were they new production?

Did the guy from the Czech forum ever reply?

Regards,

Charlie

-- Edited by CharlieC on Tuesday 14th of December 2010 01:06:03 PM

James H · Legend

Heard nothing from the Czech bloke. By all means have another try. I'm probably doing something wrong.

I see that the November 2006 issue of Blind�s et Mat�riel has an article by our friend and occasional contributor Fran�ois Vauvillier, L'histoire compl�te du 280 sur chenilles, de 1918 � 1940.

http://blindes-materiel.histoireetcollections.com/en/publication/1731/blindes-materiel-74-november-2006.html

If anyone has a copy it might throw light on the matter. I might invest in one once Xmas is out of the way.

ALVF · Major

Hello,

The Saint-Chamond SPGs are:

-the "Mortier de 220 TR Saint-Chamond sur aff�t-chenilles Saint-Chamond", a powerful mortar (13600 m range), only one made but it is the sole french SPG to have seen combat with total success at Verdun in july 1918 with french troops.The affirmation of Ian Hogg is wrong on this point.75 of these mortars were ordered but the order is cancelled after the 11th november 1918.

-the "Canon de 194 GPF sur aff�t-chenilles Saint-Chamond", 50 were made in 1918 and 1919 too late for the war.

-the "Mortier de 280 TR Schneider sur aff�t-chenilles Saint-Chamond", 25 were made in 1919.

The Schneider SPGs are:
-the "Canon de 220 L mod�le 1917 sur caterpillar", one made in 1917-1918, tested at Verdun in september 1918 but no combat use.12 in building in 1919.

Yours sincerely,
Guy Fran�ois.

James H · Legend

Thanks, Guy.

There's a photo here that I haven't seen before, of the Schneider and St Chamond together (2nd photo down):

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=70&p=1264611

LincolnTanker · Commander in Chief

Here's a photo of a St Chamond SPG�in Germay 21-04-45

-- Edited by LincolnTanker on Wednesday 27th of April 2011 12:58:45 AM

Date: Jul 30, 2011

ALVF wrote:
... The Schneider SPGs are: -the "Canon de 220 L mod�le 1917 sur caterpillar", one made in 1917-1918, tested at Verdun in september 1918 but no combat use.12 in building in 1919. Yours sincerely, Guy Fran�ois.

�"12 in building in 1919" means that were made 12 in 1919 or were planned to made 12 in 1919?

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Regards,

RE