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A rather nice Dio by Mike Fleckenstein



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Very nice! Only minor criticism is the sidecaps - they were only worn by the Royal Flying Corps

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"only worn by the Royal Flying Corps"
and Americans ...

Very Nice

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Ironsides wrote:

"only worn by the Royal Flying Corps"
and Americans ...

 

 That'll be George S. Patton, then, I expect.

 

Cambria? Your Welshness is showing, Balders.



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American engineers unloading tankswink



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Ironsides wrote:

 

American engineers unloading tankswink

 

 Sorted biggrin Have to say my knowledge of colonial kit is fairly non-existent



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 Hi Rob its not so clear to me either, but becoming clearer, equipment manuals I have from CARL dated from MAY 1918 show that officially the overseas cap was the usual soft hat issued by then... but so far I havent found anything earlier other then photos and you know how uncertain they can be... one photo from the 12th Engineers history appears to show a distant man with cap in the Cambrai chapter but the majority of pics are places with no people...

http://www.baystatemilitaria.com/WWI/WWIheadgear.htm

An Article in Stars and Stripes  would suggest May 1918 was the time it became standard issue and had by then replaced the Montana...

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There is a considerable brouhaha taking place on the Strelets forum about this very topic. We know that some US Railroad Troops got caught up in the German counter-attack at Cambrai, but that was some 10 days into the battle. I haven't seen anything to suggest that they played a part in getting the Tanks to their starting positions. The blokes in the dio appear to be effecting some sort of repairs to the tracks or rollers, which would seem to be above and beyond the call.

The Montana can be seen in photos in Nov 1917. Can't remember for certain exactly when the Overseas Cap was issued.

Balders, can you direct us to the site where Mr. Fleckenstein's dio appears? We might be able to glean something from there.



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On another note, i'm very glad to see the figures, correctly, have brown boots

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Hi James, Re US Engineers unloading Tanks Cambrai..

11th Engineers.

"In its normal duties of railway construction and maintenance the
regiment participated in the preparation for and execution of the
British Cambrai offensive beginning November 20, 1917. Company
B and one-half of Company D at Plateau assisted in unloading a
fleet of the tanks used in the offensive. Great secrecy was maintained
in the operation, tanks being parked in a valley to be made ready for
action and then reloaded for transport to points close to the lines.
The work was all done at night or on very foggy days."

From : HISTORICAL REPORT CHIEF ENGINEER A.E.F 1917-19 War Dept. doc. 907. Office of the Adjutant General

ENGINEER ARMY TROOPS WITH BRITISH EXPEDITIONARY FORCES. page 158

http://www.1914-1918.net/ASC_Railroutes.htm scroll down bottom of page for image.

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-- Edited by Ironsides on Friday 15th of April 2011 07:35:06 AM

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I stand corrected.

 



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From the title of this thread and the above learned discussion, should I assume that Patton was in Wales as well?!

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Gwyn Evans wrote:

From the title of this thread and the above learned discussion, should I assume that Patton was in Wales as well?!

Gwyn

 

 Gwyn, didn't you notice the typo?  Patton was going to the Lake District! (Cumbria for our international friends)



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