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James H


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This is a new one on me.

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Remembers me on the Austro-Hungarian Helmet for Police before 1918. But I am not sure.

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Maybe some sort of 'overhat' for a pickelhaube? Reminds me of the 'gorblimey' hat issued to British troops in 1915, with a flap to go under the chin

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BAVARIAN ALPINE TROOPS 1ST MODEL EXPERIMENTAL PICKELHAUBE, WWI All the best Tim R

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A little more information. This is a first model experimental pickelhaube introduced for Bavarian Alpine Troops in August 1915. Similar to the standard leather pickelhaube, its design is basically a hybrid of the pickelhaube and the alpine cap with neck flap. The helmet originated with the need for Alpine Troops to have a protective helmet for climbing as well as protection from cold weather. The pressed cardboard shell is covered with green-gray sailcloth, a linen material, and features a removable zinc-plated infantry spike. Attached to the front is a simple banner bearing the motto In Treue Fest (In Firm Faith or Steadfast and True). Also, cockades of the national tricolors and Bavarian state colors are attached on either side. Other than its linen construction, the unique design aspect of this pickelhaube is the fleece-lined flap, which was worn up or folded down over the wearers ears and neck. The interior is lined with white linen, and the split prong attachments of all the fittings are clearly visible. Although an improvement over the standard leather pickelhaube, the linen model (including the second model without the neck flap) proved to be unsuitable and was rejected.1

-- Edited by Tim R on Tuesday 19th of July 2011 07:30:32 PM

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Mr. Rigsby wins a pair of Lederhosen.

http://www.militaryheadgear.com/items/10325#fn1



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Great, can I get them in a 3X please.?

-- Edited by Tim R on Tuesday 19th of July 2011 08:21:07 PM

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Talking of helmets, I never realised until just the other day that the Irish had their own version of the German 1916 Stahlhelm (complete with face-shield lugs).  See ON GUARD IN THE OUTPOSTS OF PEACE (British Pathe film archive).  Gives one quite a turn to see troops wearing it while carrying SMLEs at the slope (with fixed bayonets), eh?

Apparently they are now terribly rare.  One is currently advertised in Australia for $1250.  Anyone having a "Stalheim" with V. Ltd stamped in the shell is in luck (V for Vickers, yes they were English made, in 1923).

Oh, and if researching any helmets, best to avoid the excellent members.fortunecity.com/milit/ website at the moment.  Norton Safe Web says there is a virus downloader currently active there.  Unfortunately I didn't see such warning when I followed a link there.  Norton is wrong.  There are at least 2 different virus downloaders there.



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We had a brief discussion on the Vickers helmet a while ago, but Centurion's picture seems to have vanished. I think the one below is what he posted. In the Pathe clip, the helmets change from Vickers to Brodie mid-way. I can't i.d. the guns. 5.5s?

This gentleman explains the Vickers on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiXsKqQRxf4&feature=related

The same gent also describes the history of the "Ottoman" helmet, but I think there are serious doubts about this theory nowadays:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8P352Jy7xU&feature=related

BTW, the Bavarian number is exceedingly stylish, don't you think?



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By golly, that's starting to sound familiar. Everything old is now again when the memory goes. 1927 production, not 1923 of course. Notice the dents? Apparently they were mild steel. Perfectly possible to dent any steel helmet of course but there were an exceptional number in those Irish helmets - besides Wikipedia says they were mild steel.

I've always admired the Italian M33 (and thus the Soviet M40 too) for "stylishness". The only helmet I own is a DDR one.

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