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Hi all,

Any help with the Id's of these tanks lost at Arras would be most welcome,

Thank's in advance,

Best regards Eddie



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All of the tanks in the photos above were MkII's belonglng to 11 Co., D Bn. HBMGC and were knocked out on 11/4/17 during the 1st Battle of Bullecourt. The tank on the left is 796 (D23), and is seen abandoned just in front of the Hindenberg Line trench at the SE corner of Bullecourt village. The middle tank is 586 (D28), destroyed just in front of the first Hindenberg Line trench south of Riencourt. The tank on the right is 799 (D30), seen between the first and second line of the Balcony Trench system, NW of Queant. On the map they are designated as 11 (796), 3 (799), and 4 (586).



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Thank you very much =)

Best regards Eddie



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I'm a little suspicious of the plate damage on the front horn on the 3rd photo, looks added on to me.  The damage that encroaches on the adjuster is very iffy.



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I dunno, the adjuster has been knocked out of position by something - a small shell would do it.

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Another possibility might be a near miss by a heavy shell, all the holes in the armour being caused by splinters. The armour plate was fairly thin and brittle as evidenced by the metal around the holes being broken cleanly without any bending or tearing. The track adjuster looks to have been hit by a splinter which neatly tore a chunk out of the lower edge and punched out a piece of plate under the adjuster. I guess you could work out how far away the shell exploded - probably only a few metres away from the tank.

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Charlie



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You're probably right - the holes are clustered quite closely on the track frame and sponson front, with a large scorch mark below.

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All the pictures I have which are more or less identical show no damage to the front left of the hull, this pic a later one after the guns have been removed shows no damage, other then the rear hull and sponson also on all the other pics...

So I would conclude artistic licence....

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Thanks Ironsides, I have studied the construction of the rhomboids by looking at as many battle damaged tanks I can find photos of and that style of damage was a little strange.



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