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From "MILITARIA" (The Polish modelling-historical magazine) Vol.1, No.3
The author Russian - Michail Baryatinski

ARMORED CARS OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY 1914—1917.

Building of armored cars in Russia began right after the start of the First World War. On 17 August 1914 the Minister of Military Affaif s, Adjutant-General Suchomlinov, summoned an officer of the Leib-Guard Rifle Legion, Col. Dobrzanski, and ordered him to form and equip an "armored automobile machinegun battery" ("bronirovannaya pulemetnaya avtomobilnaya batareya"). This task was carried out in record short time and already by 19 October 1914 the 1-st Automobile Machinegun Company (1-ya Pulemetnaya Avtomobilnaya Rota) was sent to the front and placed at the disposal of the staff of the II Army. Initially its inventory contained 8 armored cars based on the Russo-Balt chassis and armed with machine-guns, and one based on the 5-ton Mannesman-Mulag armed truck and armed with a 47 mm naval cannon. In addition, the platoon automobile artillery had two unarmored trucks armed with automatic 37 mm Maxim-Nordenfeldt cannon. These could be fired from the truck bed or from the ground — on a wheeled carriage. Later the number of unarmored trucks with automatic 37 mm cannon increased to three.

The production capabilities of the Russo-Baltic Car Factory, the only manufacturer of automobiles in Russia, absolutely did not allow building a sufficient number of chassis for armored cars. For this reason a special commission was sent to England under the leadership of the commander of the Auto­mobile Training Company, Col. Siekrietev, with the aim of buying a large number of motorized vehicles, among these also armored cars. As the result of this mission, 48 armored cars based on the Austin chassis, 40 on the Renault, and one on the Isotta-Fraschini were purchased.

The first Austins, which were meant to become the basic type of armored car in the Russian Army, began arriving in Russia at the end of 1914. At the end of December the formation of an armored car platoon ("Pulemetny Avtomobilny Vzvod" — PAW) was started, and its inventory initially included three Austins. It is worth noting here that the 4 mm armor of English production was found to be totally inadequate. Because of this during the winter of 1915 all newly received Austins were sent to the Izorski factory where the English armor was replaced by 7 mm armor sheets produced in Russia.

Battle experiences of the 1st Automobile Machinegun Company showed also the need for building cannon armed armored cars. To satisfy this need, at the begining of 1915 work began on armoring American 4-ton Garford automobiles in the Putilov factory, and arming them with a 76 mm cannon and three machine-guns. According to a new arrangement, each platoon of armored cars was to be equipped in two cars armed with machineguns and one with a cannon.

During the spring of 1915 the first transports of disassembled Renault armored cars began to arrive. These were equipped with a machine-gun, but did not have full armor, and did not at all meet the requirements drawn by the Armored Car Commission of the Chief Technical-Military Command. A portion of these were used in the armored car platoon to deliver ammunition (mainly for cannon armed cars), and 11 were transferred to the Izorski factory with the aim of armoring them based on the design of Staff-Captain Mgiebrov.

In total 16 cars were armored according to the system of Staff-Captain Mgiebrov. Besides Renaults these were: White, Pierce-Arrow, Benz, Isotta-Fraschini, and Russo-Balt "E". Installation of their armor was carried out in the Izhorski factory from spring to fall of 1915.
At the same time 11 cars were equipped with armor according to the system of Staff-Captain Niekrasov in the private shops of A. Bratolyubov in Peterburg: 10 Russo-Balt and one Renault. Four of those were judged to be com­pletely unsuitable for front-line service; six others, armed with Hotchkiss 37 mm cannon, were assigned to a armored railroad platoon.

In the Obukhowski factory 3 cars were ar­mored under the direction of Staff-Captain Bylinski, two based on Mercedes chassis (with engines of 45 and 50 hp), and one on the Lloyd chassis. The former were designed for military action in conjunction with cavalry units. The Lloyd armored car had two turrets with Maxim machineguns, and the Mercedes cars one each. The latter two were additionally armed with 37 mm cannon on the lower hull, in the back. A unique feature of these vehicles was the use of light armor of chromo-nickel-vanadium steel, and asteering system that used the rear pair of wheels. On basis of these cars the 25th Platoon of Automobile Machine-guns was formed.

During the second half of 1915 and during winter and spring of 1916 additional 161 armored cars arrived in Russia. Of these 60 were based on the Austin 2nd series chassis, 10 Armstrong-Whitworth-Jarrot, 30 Armstrong-Whitworth-Fiat, 25 Sheffield-Simplex, and 35 Army Motor Lorries. However, only the Austins were judged fit for battle action. The Armstrong-Whitworth armored cars, based both on the Jarrot and Fiat chassis, revealed serious mechanical and other shortcomings, seriously limiting their combat capabilities. For this reason the Armstrong-Whitworth cars underwent modifications: those build on Jarrot chassis received new front axles, their rear suspensions and front shock absorbers were strengthened, armored cupolas were installed in the roofs of the turrets, and the barrels of the machineguns were provided with armor. The rebuild Jarrot and Fiat armored cars began arriving at the front during the end of 1916 and beginning of 1917.

As to the Sheffield-Simplex and Armstrong Motor Lorries armored cars, these had not been transferred to the army at all due to their total unsuitability for military service. One Sheffield-Simplex car was send to the Kolomienski factory, where it was adopted to be used on railroad tracks. It was planned to modify all cars of this make for in this fashion.
For completion of the newly formed units (based on the Austin 2 series of cars), PAW needed new armored cars armed with cannon. To solve this problem in the shortest time possible, it was decided to arm 22 Lanchester armored cars (assigned previously to an Eng­lish armored squadron) with 37 mm Hotchkiss cannon. Work connected with these modifications was completed during the spring of 1916, and the Lanchesters were successfully used at the front.
In the summer of 1916 armoring of 30 Jeffery cars begun according to the system of Staff-Captain Poplavko, which were subsequently used to form the Armored Company for Special Missions.

It is worth noting here that in September of 1916 Russian Army armored car units trans­ferred to the divisional system. Besides the already mentioned division of Staff-Captain Poplavko, 12 other divisions of armored cars were formed, each made up of 3-4 PAWs. Organization into platoons was retained only in places where such organization made sense, for example on the Caucasus.

In order to speed up production of armored cars, it was decided, besides purchasing of 60 Austin 3 series armored cars from England, to organize large-scale domestic manufacture of armored cars based on imported automobile chassis. To this end 60 Austin and 90 Fiat chassis were ordered, which were to be ar­mored in the Putilov and Izhorski factories. However, because of the lateness in receiving these chassis, the factories could only begin the job at end of 1917. Until October it was possible to make only 16 armored cars based on the Fiat chassis. The situation with the Austins was even worse — in 1917 none of left the factory.

Together with Austins and Fiats, it was planned to armor 31 Packard chassis in the Obukhowski factory according to the system developed by Lt. Ulianov. Only one car based on this chassis was completed, however, due to exceedingly great weight of the finished product. The Packard was armed with a Maxim-Nordenfeldt 37 mm automatic cannon mounted on the body and a Maxim 7.62 mm machine-gun in a small turret placed at the rear of the automobile.

A separate page in the history of Russian armored cars were halftrack vehicles built according to the design of A. Kegress, the director of the Technical Section of the garage of His Imperial Highness. In the summer and fall of 1916 trials took place with an Austin series 2 equipped with a track mechanism of his design. The results were sufficiently satisfactory and it was decided to equip with tracks part of the Austins and Fiats, and all of the Packards build in the Obukhovski factory, and also 20 FWD chassis, which were to be armored inthe Putilov factory. In perspective, it was antici­pated that all armored cars of the Russian Army would be equipped with the Kegress chassis. However, these plans were never put into effect. On the way to their realization stood the Russian revolution, after which A. Kegress left Russia.

At the end a mention has to be made of Russian plans to build tanks. The issue here are not the prototype designs of A. Porochovshchikov ("Viezdyechod") and Lebiedenko, properly rejected by the Chief Military-Technical Directorate, but the pro­gram to purchase tanks abroad. It was planed that in 1917—18 360 Schneider tanks would be obtained, and in addition interest was shown in a version of the Renault FT17 tank equipped with a machine gun. The only Rus­sian project that had any chance of being put into production was a 12 ton tank armed with a 75 mm cannon and one machinegun, which was presented to the Chief Military-Technical Directorate by the Russkiy Renault partnership at the end of 1916. There is no doubt that Russian industry, whose manufacturing possi­bilities were at their peak in the fall of 1916, was capable of producing tanks.
However, the year 1917 arrived — the February revolution, the Kornilov rebellion, the November overthrow of the government —and no one at that time thought about tanks...

TABLE.
Platoons of Automobile Machineguns (PAW) of the Russian Army.
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The 125th Kursk Armored platoon had in its inventory an armored car build on a Russo-Balt-E. chassis, nr.1442 "Kurianin".

Notes.
1. PAW 1, 2, 3, and 4 were part of the 1-st Independent Machine-gun Company, in which armored cars did not carry any names.
2. The lack of names of cars in many platoons is due not only to lack of information. These names were assigned by order of the commander of each platoon, and most likely part of the vehicles in a platoon had only platoon vehicle numbers.
3. The table presents the status of the platoons in the spring of 1916 without replacement of losses. The destroyed Garfords were to large extend replaced by Lanchesters.
4. The table does not list the Independent Armored Batalion of Staff-Captain Poplavko, whose vehicles did not have any names.
5. Obtaining more accurate information as to the system of assigning of platoon numbers has not been possible.



PHOTO
• Armoured car Russo-Balt, 1914. Total 8 examples were built in Izhorsky Factory after project made by ing. Grauen.
• Armoured car Garford, 1915. 48 were built by Putilovsky Factory — 30 for the army and 18 for the Peter the Great Fortress In Rewel (today Tallin). The skull insignia painted on the armour shows that this particular car belonged to "Tchastl Smierti" (Units of Death") — elite units of Russian Army.

• Au­stin armoured car (1st series), 1914-1915. Altogether 48 cars were shipped to Russia — 48 were supplied to front units while 2 to Reserve Armoured Company. The picture shows a car belonging to 8 PAW (Machine Gun Armoured Platoon).
• Armoured cars production in Izhorsky Factory, 1915. The picture shows Austin and Isotta-Fraschini armoured cars.
• Austin armoured car (2 series), 1915—1916. 58 were supplied to Russia out of 60 ordered. The picture shows a car belonging to one of the "Units of Deatch". Reflector and machine gun armour was made in Russia.

• A car on White chassis, armoured after Staff-Captain Mgiebrov project, 1915. Only 1 exaple was built in Izhorsky Factory.
• Armoured car on Renault chassis, 1915 amoured after Staff-Captain Mgiebrov project. 11 cars were built to Izhorsky Works. The armour was changed in 1916 due to overweight (one the big turret was replaced by two small ones). The photo was made during revolution.
• A car on Russo-Balt chassis, armoured after Staff-Captain Niekrasov project, 1916. 4 examples were built (3 on "D" chassis and one "S" chassis) In A. Bratolyubov Workshop in Peterburg. The photo shows the armoured car "Pobedonosiets"
• A car on Russo-Balt chassis (Staff-Capt. Niekrasov project), 1916. 3 built in workshop owned
by A. Bratolyubov. These armoured cars were made for Railway Armoured Platoon.
• Armoured cars on Russo-Balt chassis, made in Bratolyubov's Workshop — "Oleg", "Jaroslav" and "Sviatoslav". Peterburg, 1917

• Sheffield-Simplex armoured car, 1915. 25 of them were supplied to Russia. In the picture — a car belonging to armoured car unit of Petersburg Sovdiep, 1919.
• A car on Mercedes chassis, armo­ur designed by Staff-Captain Bylinsky, 1915. Only 2 were built.
• A car on the Fiat chassis, 1917, made in Izhorsky Factory. The picture shows armoured cars of 7th Armoured Car Unit of Red Army — 3 Flats and 1 Lanchester, rearmored in Russia with 37 mm Hotchkiss gun.
• A car on Austin chassis, 1917. Producer — Izhorsky and Putilovsky Factories. In the picture — a car named "Tschutkij", Red Army, 1920.

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INCREDIBLE information Stoyan! Thank you so much for posting it.

The text says the Armstrong Whitworths were deemed unsuitable, and all of them underwent extensive redesigns... That would certainly explain the double fixed-turrets of that Japanese captured Whitoworth!

---Vil.

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This clause - the brief abstract under the book "armored cars russian army" which co-author M.Baryatinski is.

Here there is no for example a mention of three-wheel armored cars of general Filatov (it is built about 2 ten) there Is nothing about antiaircraft armored cars.

In the book authors have bypassed attention a number unknown it of types armored cars (including mentioned by you "japan AC's" in Vladivostok - though they were known to authors)



The most cool Russian AC - 1912 about which a little that is known.
It is built under the order of department China-east of the Railway. (KVZhD)
It is intended for struggle with khunkhuz's (the Chinese gangsters)
Was prior to the beginning of war in Khabarovsk (700 km to the north Vladivostok)

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Anybody knows where to find this book ?


It seems to be unavailable


Thank you in advance


Eric



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Presumably the Lanchesters the article refers to as being previously assigned to an English unit are those used by the RNAS unit under Locker Lampson. I'd always thought that these had been supplied by Britain and then left behind?

-- Edited by Centurion at 21:47, 2005-12-16

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great stuff stoyan

By the way, do you think there is chacne there were more photos of the tsar tank?
after all it was around until 1923 when it was scrapped

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Howdy Stoyan,

All I can say is "Wow!".....incredibly futuristic looking armoured car considering it was built, as you say, in 1912!! I wonder if the photo's been retouched or something since I cannot see any visible weld seams or rivets.....
Also, is that wee little round hole in the front the vision port for the driver!?!.......man, wouldn't want to be trying to negotiate any type of rough country with only a six-inch hole to look out of...

Thx again for the info, and the pic.

Tread.

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Stoyan wrote:


The most cool Russian AC - 1912 about which a little that is known. It is built under the order of department China-east of the Railway. (KVZhD) It is intended for struggle with khunkhuz's (the Chinese gangsters) Was prior to the beginning of war in Khabarovsk (700 km to the north Vladivostok)

The same armoured car is seen in a photograph in Zaloga and Grandsens book on Soviet Armour. It is strapped to a flatbed truck on a train belonging to the Czech Legion - having been captured by them in 1919. The photo is a little clearer and it is just possible to see some panel lines on the sloping side - but no rivets. I suspect that countersunk riveting has been used. This is normally asociated with the construction of aircraft and fast boats where air or water resistance needs to be minimised but it is sometimes used for other purposes (I've used it myself) however it costs more and adds no extra structural advantage some one wonders why it would be used for an armoured car.

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That car's shape is very much like WWII German SdKfz.251!!!
Similarity is striking!

G.

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This armoured car is first built in Russia - 1912 by Benz & Co in St. Petersburg (Division of Benz, Germany). 

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This armored car - not is BENZ


-- Edited by Stoyan at 00:51, 2007-04-03

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Very good photo! But 'khunkhuz' wasn't the Chinese gangsters, it's one of the minorities in China.

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