Landships II

Pzkpfw-e · Commander in Chief

St Chamond photo.

Pzkpfw-e · Commander in Chief

Mus�e des blind�s de Saumur, char Saint-Chamond by pencroff, on Flickr

Hmm, answer vanished!
Yes, the Saumur's version's tracks are about half as wide again & missing the round cupolas too.

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-- Edited by Rectalgia on Tuesday 18th of December 2012 04:56:26 AM

TinCanTadpole · Legend

You're right, the tracks are surprisingly narrow; must have been widened later on, as I think the example at Saumur has broader tracks.

CrashandBern · Field Marshal

That's a great picture thanks for posting it, those tracks do look narrow for a 20+ ton tank.
From the Gun Power 29, Schneider CA, St. Chamond book it appears that the tracks were widened twice from the original 326mm, first to 412mm and finally to 500mm.

Tanker · Field Marshal

Bonjour,

This Saint Chamond M1 AsP4�n� 62460, was the fourth *�tank ot�first Battery from Groupe AS 31 (Ace of Spades four)�.

The tank commander was the Sous-Lieutenant Jean Ragaine (in the cupola, on the left side of the tank and adrian with a cover)

The tank was in Cond�-sur-Aisne in May 3th, 1917, moving to the Fort de Cond�. It was�two days before attack on Laffaux.

This military photo from the Section Photographique de l'Arm�e (Photo Ecpa-D Fort d'Ivry) is, also in Imp�rial War Museum�(n� Q 56412).

For track shoes, the answer is here :

http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.n [...] 1322_1.htm

Bonne lecture - Michel

* In October 23th, 1917, always in Laffaux, and always with Lt Ragaine (as Battery Commander from the 2nd Battery), the same St Chamond M1 n� 62460 will be Ace of Hearts One.

-- Edited by Tanker on Wednesday 19th of December 2012 06:31:13 PM

Pzkpfw-e · Commander in Chief

Pzkpfw-e wrote:
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-- Edited by Rectalgia on Tuesday 18th of December 2012 04:56:26 AM

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Hussar33 · Corporal

The early versions had the 2 cupolas, and apparently narrower tracks. I notice the crewman at the top right has a different type of helmet, is it a form of crash helmet or is it an adrian with a cover?

Roger Todd · Legend

Bleeding hell, it's all in French! How inconsiderate of French people to discuss the origins of a French tank in French! That's just typical of the French, staying over there, communicating in their own language... wink

Michael Taylor · Lieutenant-Colonel

And how sad that photograph of the tank commander does not allow us to appreciate his magnificent and luxuriant coiffure...

Paul Bonnett · Hero

Looks to have a decent amount of exhaust smoke as well ?