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Last one looks to me like her funeral courtage! Towed off to the scrapper.



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Fantastic, Adam. Where from?



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According to Rainer Strasheim Nixie II was scrapped at the Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD in 1942.

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Sorry, I meant "Where did Adam find the photographs?"



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They popped up on the AFV News Discussion Board.
www.com-central.net/index.php

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Ta, Adam. Found it here http://www.com-central.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=16130

Don't know if that direct link will work without signing up to that site, but I had no trouble joining. There's another lovely shot of Nixe II being towed away, and a note that she fetched $8.50 a ton as scrap.



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These pics had been already released in the Stasheim/Hundleby book "The A7V and captured Mark IV".

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8 bucks 50 a ton.



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$US8.50 in 1942 dollars is equivalent to $US122 in 2013 dollars.

Scrap sheet steel prices are currently about $US140/mt in Europe and somewhat higher in the US.

So it looks as though the scrap price received in 1942 was a reasonable one.

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Ah, that is useful and enlightening. Hard to guess what the wartime "market" was like in the UK - demand was through the roof but economic controls were presumably doing something about keeping a lid on prices. War spending was over 50% of national expenditure, nearly all of it government expenditure of course and steel was a vital material in the "war effort" with significant imports from the United States also coming into the equation, with the relevant exchange rates and repayment terms artificially constrained. I'm supposing the market was anything but "free" under the controls exercised by the Ministries of Supply and Economic Warfare. There was also "competition" from scrap drives and lots of low base-cost salvage going on too. All-in-all a unique set of constraints to match unprecedented consumption** ... $8.50 might have been a set rate, or it could have been comparatively a handsome one - but in any event it was not a "bargain basement" one. But any rate would seem still too little for the loss in our eyes, blessed with hindsight.

(**The paper www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/academic/broadberry/wp/totwar3.pdf argues that the wartime economy, notwithstanding all this "received wisdom" about the impact of wartime controls, can still be viewed in the "bigger picture" terms of market context and market forces.)



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elbavaro wrote:

These pics had been already released in the Stasheim/Hundleby book "The A7V and captured Mark IV".


In the 1990 edition? Can't find them in my copy - there are no colour photos in the book. Can't find them in the Tankograd book, either. Are you sure, Christoph? Have you got a page number?



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Hmmm .... Or maybe I am wrong. Then it must be the book about the A7V - "Sturmpanzerwagen A7V - Vom Urpanzer zum Leopard 2".

I am back home on Friday night. Then I will have a look at it.



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criminal to the preservation of history... simply shameful.


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sad not only for German



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Believe it or not I just got done building one of her remaining turrets a resting place in the Indiana Military Museum she lives on from the Destruction at Abberdean

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Here is the reveal at the museum and the paint on the turret is original 1918 it has not been repainted but the outer shell has been replaced. The turret came from Aberdean years ago and was lost to history until It was shown to me and we built the display for her.

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See Nixie II is not dead for more on her resurrection see Nixie II is not dead post. by randythebod.



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HorribleHarry wrote:

criminal to the preservation of history... simply shameful.


Nothing changes.  The APG Mark IV Female is now in a similar state.

Gwyn



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Gwyn Evans wrote:
HorribleHarry wrote:

criminal to the preservation of history... simply shameful.


Nothing changes.  The APG Mark IV Female is now in a similar state.

Gwyn


I have the same impression.



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