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The photo is from a photo album with the following description:

02.12.001 - Panzer von Zhang Zongchang.jpg

Tank of Chang Tsung Chang's -2-7 armies

Zhang Zongchang (also Chang Tsung-ch'ang or here Chang Tsung Chang) (13.02.1881-03.09.1932)

Was a Chinese warlord in Shandong in the early 20th century. Zhang Zongchang proved to be one of the more capable warlord generals, making effective use of armoured trains.

Does anyone have more information about it? The vehicle immediately reminds me of the TOG tanks.

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Ok, I had not remembered where I got this photo. In my opinion it really is the "revised" American M 1921. Presumably, the armament (tower) was removed prior to delivery to China.



-- Edited by Hedi on Thursday 8th of August 2013 08:53:13 AM

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Fascinating, do you have a larger version of the image?

EDIT: I see it was originally discussed here:

http://landships.activeboard.com/t46494227/white-russians-made-tanks-in-china/

Something about it suggests a dummy tank, it just doesn't quite look real, but the photo is so tiny it's hard to say.



-- Edited by Roger Todd on Wednesday 7th of August 2013 02:03:45 PM

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There has been a discussion about this before on this Forum ... somewhere ...

At any rate, not the first time I've seen this, though my knowledge of the thing is still zilch.

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Interesting - it would be great if we could see a larger version. It does not, to my mind, look especially like the M1921, which had the driver's position at the front and couldn't have mounted a hull gun there.

Perspective makes it a little tricky to work out whether the upper track slopes down towards the back or not, but I'd say it does, which also is out of keeping with the M1921 - it had a horizontal track return.

Finally, the M1921 had a sizable turret with a large cupola, whilst this tank has...what? It's hard to say, given the small size of the photo, but it's certainly rather different from the American tank.

The M1921 was revised in the mid-20s as the T1 Medium, getting new tracks, perhaps a new engine, and some changes to the engine deck. If there was a further revision, I know not.

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