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Neo1940


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Hello!

In the book "Encyclopedia of Tanks" by Duncan Crow & Robert J. Icks is this information about early American tank projects:

"Shaffer Armoured Tractor, 1915, based on Fageol orchard tractor, spiked front wheels, conventional rear wheels, small cylindrical turret w/bevel face, 1 mg, 1 1/2 tons, project only, 9' 10 1/2" x 4' 6" x 7'.

Automatic Land Cruiser I, 1915, based on Automatic Machine Company 'Alligator', 19 bogie wheel chassis, bevelled prow, Driggs Schroeder 1pdr gun pedestal-mounted in bow, driver and commander on raised seats under centre cupola, overhung rear, project only, 23' 6'' long.

Automatic Land Cruiser II, 1915, similar but rounded armour, centre front sponson, small side mg sponsons, 1pdr gun and 2 mg front, 2 mg rear, 6 three wheel bogie sets, project only".

Information about and image of third of these machines - Automatic Land Cruiser II - are in the book "Firepower" by Hunnicutt.

Has anybody information about the another two projects and any of their images?

Best regards,

Neo1940



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Pzkpfw-e


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I assume that this picture's the Land Cruiser II.
<a rel=i.imgur.com/s1cM4BD.jpg">

The only picture of a Fageol, that has spiked front wheels, is this one.
<a rel=cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/walking-tractor-psmay1918-3-x640.jpg">

An article copied from AFV-G2 magazine here
forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php
mentions nothing about the Fageol being built, just that the inventor was trying to interest the German consul! and 1 prototype each of the Automatic Land Cruisers being built.




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Roger Todd


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The Automatic Land Cruiser II popped up on this thread several years ago:

http://landships.activeboard.com/t4883174/ever-wonder-about-this/



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hobgrot


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not sure where I found these two photos .... apparently a model of an American WW1 concept Tank dated 1918.



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James H


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Acc to Fred Crismon, the first US vehicle driven by Archimedes Screw was a 1941 prototype, and it didn't look like that. But it does look familiar.



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Is that not an underwater (or snow) crawler design? That looks more like a pressure hull of sorts. Maybe just a demo model.

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I am sure, I have that seen before. But I can't remember where and what.

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Roger Todd


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A Russian website claims it's a model of a vehicle proposed by Samuel Cody. I've never seen any reference to him having any technological interest other than aviation, but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.

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The, admittedly not very long (7 paragraphs), piece on Cody in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography has no mention of him having any other such tech interest beyond planes. and the references list looks fairly convincing. Wonder if some other aeronaut has got mixed up with Cap'n Cody?



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news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68526000/jpg/_68526800_us-tank-1918_624.jpg">

Looks like the illigitimate offspring of an A7V & a dustbin!

 

Here's the link, since BB code's stopped working!

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/68526000/jpg/_68526800_us-tank-1918_624.jpg



-- Edited by Pzkpfw-e on Monday 3rd of March 2014 10:43:56 PM

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That's a film prop. A mock-up on a Holt or Best tractor.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/our-forts-on-wheels/



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