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Post Info TOPIC: GROUP BUILD: British Tanks 1914-18 : Eric's Mark II


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Hello everyone,

Following Treadhead's advice, I create a new topic for the GROUP BUILD: British Tanks 1914-18 concerning my Mark II build.

The Matador conversion box :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/BoiteconversionMarkIIMatador.jpg
The Matador conversion parts :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/PiecesconversionMarkIIMatador.jpg

For the Mark II, the hatch in the roof of the drivers cabin must be removed :
before :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Hatch.jpg
after :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Hatchfilled.jpg

First step of my project :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII1.jpg

Note : I filled the hatch first with a piece of plastic and then, for the remaining gaps, with the Tamiya light curing putty. Interesting stuff, not so easy to use in winter as it needs sunlight to cure

I scratchbuilt some new MG :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkIIMG.jpg

And finished my tank .... before paint
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII2.jpg

Painting on progress :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII3.jpg

Let me know what you think, expecially for the colours of the sponsons. I will add a coat of Klir (French version of Future) prior to decaling and to start weathering.

A coat of Klir and the decals
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII4.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII5a.jpg

Then something like a washing with gouache :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Gouache.jpg

The result :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII6.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII7.jpg

Don't hesitate to comment, make some remarks, I am also here to improve myself.

Now, I have to finish the tracks prior to add mud. In the tips and trick of the Landship site, there is a reference to a heavy dry brush with gun metal. Is it necessary to add a coat of Klir (or similar) before, and do you have a reference to recommend for the gun metal ?

This thread is made from the following tread :
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=63528&action=viewTopic&commentID=5211441&subForumID=169814

and a lot of answer can be found here :
http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=63528&action=viewTopic&commentID=5363532&subForumID=169814

And in a lot of other treads of this forum

Eric

-- Edited by Eric at 10:08, 2006-02-06

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Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT



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that looks great!

really crisp model

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Hello everyone,

Here is an update of my project :
First, some weathering added with Tamiya weathering set :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII8.jpg

The weathering set :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Weathering1.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Weathering2.jpg
This is an interesting set. I will also try the mud colour on this project, as well as the weathering stick (for mud relief addition).

Beginning of the tracks treatment, a heavy gun metal (HU53) dry brush over rust colour (HU113) :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII9.jpg

Feel free to comment, criticize and advise.

Eric

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Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT



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Very nice, fine weathering.


About the tracks: I sometimes do it the other way around: first paint the gun metal
paint, then do a rust wash, then a silver dry-brush, and finally pastels or even more
hefty "earth".


But I think your method works as well!


All the best



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Thank you Peter,

An other update : finishing the tracks.
First a black wash with black oil paint thinned with white spirit :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII10.jpg

Then, a light drybrush with Tamiya XF16 aluminium :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII11.jpg

No so many differences visible between the 2 pictures but in real life, it improves the track rendition.

Now to the mud application !!!

Eric

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On going : Obice da 305/17 su affusto de Stefano, Mark 1 female ...

Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT



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Nice!


As always with weathering, it's the cumulative effect that does it!



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Hello everyone,

Project almost ended.
I used the mud of the weathering set previously described to dirt a little bit the beast then add mud from an other Tamiya item :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/Weathering3.jpg

The result looks interesting to my eyes
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII12.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII13.jpg

Note : the mud dried within a few hours
Note 2 : I guess that there is enough "mud" for 3 or 4 tanks.

Eric

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On going : Obice da 305/17 su affusto de Stefano, Mark 1 female ...

Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT



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Howdy Eric,

Thx for properly re-arranging your Group Build thread Your project looks just dandy, and in Brailee scale too! I must say I have never used the majority of the products you so kindly showed in your thread, and am happy you shared their application with us all....
I particularly enjoyed your 'doctoring' of the roof of the driver's cabin, which is funny since I usually enjoy opening hatches and the like...but your attention to such detail is admirable.
Now, just so you don't think I have forgotten the 'nits'....{you did say "...Don't hesitate to comment, make some remarks, I am also here to improve myself....", correct? I have a small one and a slightly larger one, and I will keep them short. The first is regarding your washes. Since it is more difficult to properly wash a kit that is in the Braille scales, I think you could have maybe fine-tuned your nook-and-cranny work by adding some 'pin' washes to compliment your overall wash applications and maybe stepped-up the visuals in places like the track tensioner, idler wheel mounting brackets, rear drive sprocket axle mounting, etc...
And the second is about your track treatment. As our good Peter kindly shared with us, a potentially more accurate rendition of the appearance of tracks on this machine would seem to be a little less 'shiny' {your drybrushing of Tamiya XF-16 Aluminum} considering the literal daily 'grind' that most of them had to go through on the muddy battlefield of western europe....

Please take my or Farthing's worth of input as the kind, constructive words of support they are meant to be. I certainly don't have the courage {nor the eyes} for building in such dimunitive scales, so I really don't have any legs to stand on with my grumblings...I just thought I'd do my best to share so that maybe a discussion about washes and weathering / painting / detailing, etc would grow out of it!......
For the record, your project is a fine addition to the ranks of the first official Landships Group Build

Tread



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Hi Thread,

Thank you for your comments. Regarding the second one about the tracks, I agree as after "silver" treatment, I added mud and now the shiny effect is completely removed
Regarding the first point of your comment, I am not sure to understand well, sorry about my English .
Do you think I have to add some grease leak (black wash) under the various rounded bolted plates and under the track tensioner ?
If yes, do you have an advice to do that ? As I am mainly an aircraft modeler, I don't have the habit to dirt a lot my kits.

Anyway, with this build and thread, I already learned a lot about tank building and various version of Mark tanks. There are some mistakes on my kit that I will not redo on the future projects.

Eric

PS : I wil add pictures of the finished tank soon

-- Edited by Eric at 06:40, 2006-02-18

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Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT



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Hello everyone,

These are the pictures of my tank completed :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII14.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII15.jpg

And with a Mark I that I did some years ago :
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII16.jpg
https://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Nieuport/Mark%20II/MarkII17.jpg

I learned a lot during this build, thanks to the forum and will try to apply everything for my on going project, the Gun Carrier by Retrokit.

Eric

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On going : Obice da 305/17 su affusto de Stefano, Mark 1 female ...

Finished : Dennis 3 tons lorry, Jeffery Poplavko, Renault EG, Renault FT

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