Landships II

piet71 · Major

WOW ! new from TAKOM

Roger Todd · Legend

Fantastic! Some cracking non-WWI subjects too. Takom really are making some fascinating choices of subjects.

BLOWHARD · Lieutenant

I don't know if I should laugh or cry! I've been wracking my brain trying to decide if I want to convert my early Chamond to a late version! I guess I don't kneed to think about it anymore . NICE!

piet71 · Major

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/takom.html

-- Edited by piet71 on Friday 20th of June 2014 12:46:41 AM

BLOWHARD · Lieutenant

NICE!

piet71 · Major

Would that be really that blue on the Beute (German Female ) version ?

-- Edited by piet71 on Friday 20th of June 2014 12:45:19 AM

-- Edited by piet71 on Friday 20th of June 2014 12:45:47 AM

CharlieC · Legend

Probably not - it may be Takom's take on Feldgrau.

I think Hundleby and Strasheim make a pretty good case for the reuse of Belgian Railway paint colours plus Feldgrau as the palette

for German armour.

Regards,

Charlie

Lothianman · Colonel

Not much in the way of a range of markings, but that's not a huge issue so long as some folk produce some decent markings sheets on the aftermarket.

But please, please, not in modern computer generated fonts!!

Quickest way on earth to spoil a model - and that's after almost all the work has been done.

-- Edited by Lothianman on Friday 20th of June 2014 07:52:11 AM

piet71 · Major

CharlieC wrote:

Probably not - it may be Takom's take on Feldgrau.
I think Hundleby and Strasheim make a pretty good case for the reuse of Belgian Railway paint colours plus Feldgrau as the palette
for German armour.
Regards,
Charlie

I have the tankograd books ...... haven't read them yet ,thanks Charlie for your reply

Tanker · Field Marshal

http://pages14-18.mesdiscussions.net/pages1418/Pages-d-Histoire-Artillerie/Artillerie-Speciale-chars-d-assaut/artillerie-speciale-chamond-sujet_2033_1.htm

compound eye · Colonel

Just been reading the Pidgin English translation for the Mk.IV kits on 1999.co.jp... Looked at these so many times, so why it didn't stick out before I don't know.

Whoever wrote the original description - Takom / A.N. Other - made reference to Hotchkiss machine guns for the Female.

The translation was the clue, as the Japanese refer to staplers / staple guns as 'Hotchkiss' after the first manufacturer to introduce them to the country, hence Hotchkiss Machine Guns translates as 'Machine Guns Stapler'!

Whether this is just 'blurb', or whether there are Hotchkiss in the kit, we'll have to wait and see. The Takom renders and box art show Lewis Guns, so whether these would a late 'option part' inclusion - as well as Lewis Guns, who knows..? Surely Lewis armed MK IV were more typical, and Beutes [as per the box art] would be often be MG.08 armed???

Whatever, I hope they get the ball mounts right - the Tamiya ones don't include any sighting hole above the Lewis barrels!

thorst · Colonel

I'm too looking forward to the Takom Mark IVs. And I hope that they get the rivets correctly... in the side view renders, there's a minor error... Of course not a deal braker, but for that money, I hope it's all right. Proportions from the side views are spot on compared to original data.

compound eye · Colonel

Cannot wait for availability info on these Mk.IVs.

Gagging to get my hand on them.

17th June availability unchaged on Takom's site, HLJ saying August...

piet71 · Major

I pre orderd both and paid in may from the Sockelshop ,First realese date was 15/07 than 15/08 and now 10th september .

compound eye · Colonel

A [German] seller appeared on EBay today advertising the Male & Female. Presumable they have the to ship as pre-orders are not allowed.

So, hopefully this bodes well for [cheaper] shipping notices from all our fave pre-order websites in the far east, after the wonkend.

piet71 · Major

And now the relaese date is 18 August (Germany)

compound eye · Colonel

Just got a shipping notice from Japan on the Takom Male / Female...

7 days time, plus customs faff & general swearing at surcharges ;)

compound eye · Colonel

Glueless workable tracks from TAKOM?!!

piet71 · Major

RE: WOW ! new from TAKOM

compound eye · Colonel

Indeed piet71. Nice linking - it wasn't there last night, only on Takom's site.

Just to confirm. I have just viewed the 'unboxed' kit photos on 1999.co.jp, and the tanks are issued with the complex ultra-detail tracks.

Ok, ultra-detail will be 'the business', but 1000 track parts, ,much effort, many hours, mostly hidden. Bugger..!

I wish the click-fit tracks had been released in tandem with the tanks, so we'd know about track-plate detail and price by now. I might have ordered a couple of sets, as spares for other builds.

PS - I discovered the other day that POCKETBOND are now the official UK importers / agents for Takom. Which a/ comes as rather a slap to Emhar, b/ makes you wonder about ITA's position, as they were one time [ahem] approved sole-supplier for the UK.

dcshoe · Private

The machine guns in both Takom Mark IV kits are Lewis guns, and they look great. They mount just as they do in the actual tanks.

piet71 · Major

piet71 wrote:
I pre orderd both and paid in may from the Sockelshop ,First realese date was 15/07 than 15/08 and now 10th september .

And now its 22 August 2014 confuse

compound eye · Colonel

Strange... Clearly they are available right now.

Although, it was some sort of Japanese national holiday last week, so although HLJ wanted my money [in 3 days - or else], they have actually done sod-all about shipping my order!

Pierantonio · Lieutenant-Colonel

compound eye wrote:
Although, it was some sort of Japanese national holiday last week, so although HLJ wanted my money [in 3 days - or else], they have actually done sod-all about shipping my order!

Me too

piet71 · Major

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/takom.html

compound eye · Colonel

ARRGGGHHHHH!

What drugs are Takom on?! This kit has click tracks, yet the regular Male / Female kits just released have masochist tracks... Click tracks were announced by Takom the very same week as the first two Rhomboids became available for shipping. Clearly, there has been some parallel development of both tank & click tracks... I wish they'd put click tracks in these kits too.

I cannot see what advantage masochist tracks offer, on a tank where most of the actual linkage is hidden, unless you are going to model a 'full peel' on a destroyed tank.

Frustrated frankly.

Paul Bonnett · Hero

With reference to "Glueless workable tracks from TAKOM " they list on their box " For MkII/MkIV/MkV/MkIV Tadpole/Whippet " so does this hint at more to follow after the Tadpole ? We can but pray
Paul

TobyC · Private

Some cracking kits. Sadly I only model in 1/72 plastic and finding heavy artillery within those parameters is limited.

compound eye · Colonel

Paul Bonnett wrote:
With reference to "Glueless workable tracks from TAKOM " they list on their box " For MkII/MkIV/MkV/MkIV Tadpole/Whippet " so does this hint at more to follow after the Tadpole ? We can but pray
Paul

Wishful but, not unfounded, thinking. I wonder if they have just seen a gap in the [aftermarket upgrade] market and gone for it..? Tamiya's Char B1 Bis tracks are very highly thought of, as are their rhomboid click tracks, apparently.... BUT only Friuli is supplying any aftermarket rhomboid track worth buying at the moment, and glueless clickers will fit most people's pockets as well as patience levels.

Clearly Takom have either had a change of heart, or decided there would be outright mutiny if they included 5-part masochist track-links in the tadpole kit. The tracks account for 1000 pieces in normal rhomboids... A pity they didn't have glueless clickers in the standard Mk.IVs too. You only need hyper-detail if the whole track run is exposed, like the Renault FT or the A7V Uberlandwagen.

piet71 · Major

piet71 wrote:
http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/takom.html

I finally got them today ,

-- Edited by piet71 on Friday 20th of June 2014 12:46:41 AM

compound eye · Colonel

How are you liking those complicated tracks Piet?

I am waiting for the customs charge notice to come through my door. Tomorrow perhaps.

piet71 · Major

compound eye wrote:
How are you liking those complicated tracks Piet?

To much! hmm

-- Edited by piet71 on Friday 22nd of August 2014 06:51:55 PM

thorst · Colonel

As there are such a lot of negative comments on the tracks, I have to say that I am looking forward to receiving and building mine. I like the fact that TAKOM did not go a simplified route on the tracks, even as it causes some more work. But this way, they include all parts to build a well detailed model and even a bit more than that. I hope they continue this way.

herrmill · Corporal

Sigh. Wish they'd follow their larger 1:16 FT-17 with another subject in the same scale.

Pzkpfw-e · Commander in Chief

The MkIVs have appeared in my local model shop. £50 each is a fair whack!

BC312 · Colonel

www.friulmodel.hu/en/atl-148-mk-iv-tadpole-tail-mkv-mk-ix-i249/

MARK IV TADPOLE TAIL MK V / MK IX : 240 links, two sprocket wheels, two idler wheels in 1/35 th scale and a wire to obtain the track pivots.

compound eye · Colonel

HLJ are listing a Mk IV Hemaphrodite for December. PMMS hasn't picked up on it yet.

No other details, esp re tracks, or whether you get full M/F sprues to achieve the necessary mixture [leaving two whole sponsons spare]

Wish the workable tracks would come back off order stop though...

PDA · Legend

compound eye wrote:
... a Mk IV Hemaphrodite ...

Wow! That will go nicely with the British Army Issue Anti-Gravity Boots that were issued only for the Antarctica Theatre of The War.

compound eye · Colonel

So, from that reply, there was no such thing? I did wonder myself, having heard plenty about Mk Vs being hemaphrodites, but nothing I could recall about Mk IVs... but then I'm no expert.

1999.co.jp are also listing it, so unlikely to be a vendor cock-up. Here is their link with 'machine' translation.

Depending on the actual sponson sprue inclusions, this could be a great kit M/F option kit [plus it says glueless tracks] or an utter fantasy bollox of a kit.

www.1999.co.jp/eng/10298338

lostiznaos · Field Marshal

Except for the so called "markIV hermaphrodite", those models are great!
I've bought the two St Chamond and the MarkIV female and they're both good, my old Ehmars will go to retirement!

The point difficult to accept is the choice they made for the tracks. The multi parts ones are just awful to built even accurate and it is somewhat scandalous too provide it in the box to offer another model just few weeks later. The model isn't that cheap I accept to pay more!
I just hope they will insert the new link in the further models.
regards
Gilles(Lostiznaos)