Landships II

So, first set for Mk.IV is ready

 

 

  

-- Edited by Alpha Six on Sunday 21st of February 2016 10:25:09 PM

CrashandBern wrote:

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C51 Chaperon II would be also be nice to have along with some Mk.IV Supply Tank decals

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 I think the 'Chaperone' figure might be a hunched over monkey holding up an eye glass and wearing a top hat ? I have puzzled over this before and would like to see a clearer pic. Anyone have the faintest idea what the connection is ?

compound eye wrote:

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If you are working on C47, then I'd say that C48 'Caesar' needs to go on that particular sheet also. The crew of Caesar rescued the entire crew of C47 'Conqueror II' under brutal German fire... and fought their way back to the line with all 16 men alive [some injured]. A very heroic action that needs commemorating with decals.

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 The main question - is there any pictures of C48?

Tomo wrote:

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CrashandBern wrote:

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C51 Chaperon II would be also be nice to have along with some Mk.IV Supply Tank decals

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 I think the 'Chaperone' figure might be a hunched over monkey holding up an eye glass and wearing a top hat ? I have puzzled over this before and would like to see a clearer pic. Anyone have the faintest idea what the connection is ?

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 On second thoughts I now think the Chaperone figure was meant to be an old goat.

According to G & G, C48 took a bad artillery hit in the rear - right at the last moment as it got back to the British line... It seems plausible that the recovery of the tank was considered secondary to the welfare of the 16 men inside - 15 of whom [according to G & G] were badly injured. It seems no less heroic to me that C48 ultimately got captured. Apparently, when the Germans saw C48 coming to the aid of C47 and off-loading the crew they piled on *more* fire and kept doing so even though C48 - now out of ammo itself and not returning fire - was essentially an ambulance on a mercy mission.

I'd be pretty damned proud to model that tank, when I eventually do pull this kit out of my stash.

Tomo wrote:

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CrashandBern wrote:

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C51 Chaperon II would be also be nice to have along with some Mk.IV Supply Tank decals

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 I think the 'Chaperone' figure might be a hunched over monkey holding up an eye glass and wearing a top hat ? I have puzzled over this before and would like to see a clearer pic. Anyone have the faintest idea what the connection is ?

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 After further study, the character on Chaperone appears to be an 'Old Goat.'

Alpha Six wrote:

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Tomo wrote:

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Tomo wrote:

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CrashandBern wrote:

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C51 Chaperon II would be also be nice to have along with some Mk.IV Supply Tank decals

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 I think the 'Chaperone' figure might be a hunched over monkey holding up an eye glass and wearing a top hat ? I have puzzled over this before and would like to see a clearer pic. Anyone have the faintest idea what the connection is ?

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 After further study, the character on Chaperone appears to be an 'Old Goat.'

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 ))))) http://landships.activeboard.com/t61771665/chaperon-ii-mystery-revealed/

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 Thanks Denis but the character painted is clearly an animal, probably a goat. What is the Franz Josef/ Chaperone connection ?

Alpha Six wrote:

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The main question - image of the left side. Should there be some kind of a figure on it? As C47 and C51?

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To my knowledge, at this point there is only demonstrable evidence of 3 tanks in that unit having hull art, and C48 isn't one of them.

It could be a case of never knowing, unless a photo of its ride side ever comes to light.

There is evidence of other tanks in that unit that don't have hull art though & one could never be called incorrect for modelling C48 without it, unless it can be proven otherwise - which is unlikely.

-- Edited by compound eye on Saturday 5th of March 2016 11:08:53 AM

Hello,

I really love the range of decals and I plan to order some in the near future,

esspecially the hopefully upcoming decal set for C47 conqueror II.

I have a question (maybe adressed before) concerning the colour of  C47 ( as seen in the photographs)

the drawings of the german soldier is on a dark background ,as are other parts of the tank (for example  the C-47 number)

the rest of the tank is a far lighter shade.

I read some  contradicting explanations about  this .....

- the tanks were given a grayish paintjob, on top of the original pint . They left the markings  on the original (brownish ) background and didn't overpaint  them.

-the tanks were covert  in mud which dryed up in a light grayish tone  and left the markings as they were.

Which  is the correct explanation ?

I personally think it's overpainted  because  you can't see the mud structure on the lighter parts on the photographs.

and on photograps taken at an other time and place the paint scheme looks identical .

 

last question : am I correct in the assumed colours ?

hope to hear from you

 

greetz Ronald

 

ps :is there a change  a decalsheet for C51  Chaperone will be released ( including the illusive cartoon )?

-- Edited by SMK on Wednesday 9th of March 2016 02:38:27 PM

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-- Edited by SMK on Wednesday 9th of March 2016 03:33:18 PM

-- Edited by SMK on Wednesday 9th of March 2016 03:50:35 PM

Hello

Pictures of Crusty and Conqueror II

The drama in your diorama is superb. So poignant too. The truth is so much stronger than fiction.

This pretty much nails it for me. I want to build Caesar, even if I have to scavenge decals from other genres or hand paint markings myself.

Hello! Thank you for your interest.
I find it hard to read so much in English. So sorry for the brevity. The decals for C51 is no change.
But I decided that I would draw the figure of Progulkin old man. But this decal is sure to be made. I have to make with multiple projects at the same time. Therefore, the work goes slowly. The decal for C48 will be too. If you are sure that this tank should not be a figure, then I'll make just numbers.

I agree the figure most likely represents Franz Joseph, the 'animal head' is a trick of the light on the first picture. The question is why was Franz Joseph considered to be a 'chaperone'. There must be a connection. Perhaps a historian could help us here ?

So ! Lets see if I have got this right ?

You are saying- It is not FJ who is the Chaperone, FJ needs a Chaperone. The tank is the Chaperone and is taking FJ for a walk ?

Regards
Tomo

Marvelous !

They look fantastic Denis, I'm really looking forward to the 1/72 scale versions when they're available. 

Personally I have to say I think it's unlikely.

If you look at the picture you've posted above then the paint work looks far too uniform over the rivets, panel gaps and bolt heads. If it was indeed canvas or fabric pasted over such an irregular surface I would expect to see some wrinkling or bunching of the fabric particularly around the prominent bolt head near the puppet's right hand.
Looking at other pictures I have of C47 the gaps between the armour plates around the artwork also look completely uniform which I would expect to either narrow or disappear completely with an additional material pasted over the top.

The other thing to bear in mind are the paints available during that period, cellulose certainly is very rigid and brittle when dry so unless they used something like water paint which wouldn't be very durable you would end up with a rigid sheet of material that would be next to impossible to apply.

Regarding B-29 nose art I've never heard of painted fabric being applied? To the best of my knowledge most of the nose art (on Saipan at least) was applied by Bud Sprenger and Guillermo Hernandez directly onto the bare aluminium.

YES,YES,YES.......

I was waiting for this decal set.....
The model itself is as good as ready....and waiting for the decals


Thanx for the good news.👍🏻

Greetz Ronald

CrashandBern wrote:

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They look fantastic Denis... when are the 1/72 scale versions coming out?

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Hi Berny!

After second  Female set ))) As I wrote, this is technological feature. In 1/35 scale less precise requirements for the reconciliation of the elements. Therefore, I must first see the results in 1/35 and then adjust the project to 1/72.