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Hi

 

There are a "Bombarda" preserved in the courtyard of the “Museo de Armas de la Nación” of the Círculo Militar - Buenos Aires

 

It is classified as Bombarda Italiani da 240 mm – 1886 – “Ufficio Meccanico Milano”.

 

Bombarda Italiani da 240 mm – 1886 – “Ufficio Meccanico Milano”.

 

Museo de armas de la Nación- Círculo Militar – Buenos Aires

 

Another picture, better quality than mine

 

 

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Museo_de_Armas_de_La_Naci%C3%B3n_-_Artiller%C3%ADa_en_el_exterior_07.JPG

 

 

What the upper steering wheels are for, if the lifting mechanism is operated with the front steering wheel  (under the number 10)?????

 

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Eduardo



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I'm guessing it's the traverse gear wheel.

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I can tell for sure 1886 is not the year when this was build.

Around 1916 the Italian Army started using license build Mortier de 240 mm of Batignolles design. Later on a longer barrel was used, and this seems one with a longer barrel.
it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombarda_da_240_mm

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Hi

 

Thank you very much for answering my question

 

It seems that the steering wheel  with their shaft are fixed to the barrel and that when it changes its angle of elevation, that shaft moves through the groove of the side plate of the support.

 

Regards

 

Eduardo



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Hi

 

I do not know why they put that date, this "bombarda" was not in service in the Argentine Army, so I do not have more data.

The "Museo de Armas de la Nación" is a civil society that belongs to the "Círculo Militar" and possibly has received this mortar donated by the Army or by the Italian Government.

 

In general, the Museum respects the data provided by those who make the donation (but may have been a mistake??)

 

Regards

 

Eduardo



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Hi

 

In the same yard you can see another mortar with almost the same gauge but with a very different concept of use.

 

GermanMInenwerfer” and French “Mobile Personnel Shield” to WWI

Regards

Eduardo

 

 



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Hi  

 

Rear view of the Italian “Bombarda da 240mm"

 

www.facebook.com/111028255645083/photos/

 

As seen in all these photos, the mounting of this "Bombarda" is different from those seen in other publications of other mortars of 240mm derived from the Dumézil-Batignolles (French "Mortier 240mm",  9.45 inch English Mortar or the American copy)

 

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortier_de_240_mm#/media/File:US_Gunners_Loading_240mm_Trench_Mortar.jpg

 

The traverse movement mechanism was on the turntable and consisted of a gear that it moved on a ring gear and it was rotated with a spanner in T, behind the block where the propellant cartridge is loaded (in the breech)

 

http://hmcel.forumactif.com/t780-le-mortier-de-240mm-modele-1916-lt-long-tranchee-9-45-inch-heavy-trench-mortar-long-model

 

This system in which an axis with steering wheel moves through a groove is present in the two models of mounting

 

http://hmcel.forumactif.com/t780-le-mortier-de-240mm-modele-1916-lt-long-tranchee-9-45-inch-heavy-trench-mortar-long-model

 

In this photo it is clear that the barrel rises when the upper gears move over the gear arch, but underneath it moves an axis with its steering wheel that does not operate any mechanism.

 

Can only be some kind of brake to the barrel for to does not move ??

 

Regards

 

Eduardo



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