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With most of the 4.000 or so Renault produced left over after the Armistice, the French Goveernment attempted to dispose of them. Twelve of them were offered to the Argentine Army, which promptly rejected them as unsuitable. Brail contracted a Frech Military Mission after 1919, and acting on its advice, a lot of French surplus equipment was purchased, including 12 Renault FT 17 & FT 18, the batch included at least one wireless model known as the T.S. F. This photo was taken during the Braziilan Civil War of 1930.

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Gunther



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Surviving examples displayed at Escola de Material Bélico (EsMB), Vila Militar, Rio de Janeiro; Parque Regional de Manutenção/1, Vila Militar, Rio de Janeiro; Museu Histórico do Exército (Conde de Linhares), São Cristóvão, Rio de Janeiro; Centro de Instrução de Blindados, Santa Maria (One wreck too?); Academia Militar das Agulhas Negras (AMAN), Resende; 2º Regimento de Carros de Combate, Pirassununga & Museu Eduardo André Matarazzo, Bebedouro.
So quite a high "survival rate".


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I guess so, the U.S. Military Attaché saw them in a parade in 1933 and described them as "newly painted" they did not apparently loose any vehicles during the 1930 Civil War. The Brazilians also purchased some French WW1 armored cars-Do you now what type?

 

My friend Bill Kirk  had a website called TANKS! which featured tanks and armored vehicles of all nations up to 1915. I downloaded some pics of these Brazilian Renaults, which I'll try to locate. We have just moved and have not finished unpacking yet

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Gunther



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Brunner88 wrote:

My friend Bill Kirk  had a website called TANKS! which featured tanks and armored vehicles of all nations up to 1915.


 Was that the FSU site? What happened to it?



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Bill purchased a Russian copy of the WW 2 Harley Davidson Motorcycle, which he found as reliable as the original. He was doing well with it, until one day without remembering how or why he found himself up a tree and in a great deal of pain. Evidently the victim of hit-and run collision head on.. HE had to resign and I guess the site went unattended. a great Pity! Two of my friends, including the fellow that did all the research on the Nahuel tank back in the 1970s! had contributed almost 300 photos to it

 

Some references to his site are still to be found, this is from the WILEPEDIA entry on the Nahuel tank

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Gunther

References[edit]

Notes
  1. ^ Jump up to: a b c d e "Mailer Edu. - Argentina tanks". Retrieved February 24, 2008.

 



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The Tanks! website has been archived - try http://web.archive.org/web/20120504004251/http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/

Potentially the website could be brought back - we saved landships.freeservers this would be a similar task.

Charlie

 



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That is Great News indeed Charli C..! a site like TANKS deserves to be preserved....



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Brunner88 wrote:

The Brazilians also purchased some French WW1 armored cars-Do you Know what type?

Cheers!

Gunther


 Can't find any info on those.

Some odd looking afvs in the first photo on this article. http://www.ecsbdefesa.com.br/fts/CUTIA.pdf



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BTW, no such things as FT17 or FT18.



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Thanks! It's am interesting  article.nevertheless.. I have ohotos of those improvised tanks built  on the chassis of agricultural tractors as well as the prototype VETE CUTIA if you are interested.

 

From my old friend Bill Kirk's  website :

 

One of the Renault FTs preserved

 



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James H wrote:

BTW, no such things as FT17 or FT18.


 FT if you prefer then, or FT M1917- FT 17 and FT 18 were the favorite designation of Bob Icks when we corresponded many moon ago,.......



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Another pic from the TANKS! website



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For more information on the FT-17 in Brazil, please access:

 

http://www.ecsbdefesa.com.br/defesa/fts/FT-17BR.pdf



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