Landships II

SMK · Major

RE: Holt tractor

SMK · Major

Recieved the missing sprue from Roden .

I am very content with the service of both Roden and Passion 132 at which I ordered the kit.

greetz Ronald

SMK · Major

Continued with the kit .........

I made some modifications on the roof and springs of the trackrollers

I replace the plastic corrugated roofpart with a metal one made of a can of coke

I used the plastic part to get the right corrugated shape

I first had to heat the material before i could get it in the right shape.

and then finished the roof part. later i wil put some rolled up tarpaulins to the sides of the roof

also replaced the plastic springparts of the trackrollers with selfmade metal springs

The next big modification will be the theadplates and fenders which i will try to replace with PE threadplate

I am looking at the moment where i can order the correct threadplate shape.

Also the Engine will get a “overhaul“ and the two tanks still needs some work....

greetz Ronald

Willem Visser · Brigadier

That roof looks very good!
And it is a good way of recycling cans!

CharlieC · Legend

It's difficult to use the Aluminium from cans because it's an alloy with significant amounts of magnesium, manganese and silicon which make the aluminium

sheet difficult to form. The alloy used in cans is designed to produce a can by deep drawing with the minimum wall thickness and maximum strength.

Heating will help somewhat as you found. The best sheet for this sort of application is nearly pure aluminium - this is sold as "tooling foil" in the US in

various thicknesses. For small jobs the aluminium seal on the inside of coffee cans is quite usable as well.

Charlie

-- Edited by CharlieC on Monday 18th of June 2018 01:43:02 AM

SMK · Major

I got a question about the two reservoirs on the Holt

Is the cylindrical tank the fuel tank and the oval tank the coolwater reservoir ?

Peter Smith · Captain

You mention the internal join in the front steering ring. In reality, wouldn't this ring have been made from 2 pieces top and bottom? It has flanges top and bottom to keep it in place, and so must either have been installed before the side frames were connected up or made in 2 pieces inserted from top and bottom and then bolted together.

SMK · Major

Peter
I am not sure what you mean

I modified the outerring because when I i glued the both rings together there was a large seem

On the real thing there is no seem at all...
so I glued on a piece of plasticard to hide the seem.

greetz Ronald.

SMK · Major

Hello Again

Continued with the kit .......

I’ve made some modifications to the two tanks, I sanded everything smooth and applied new rivets, filler cups and attachment rings.

Also the big circular cover was sanded and strips and rivets applied

Also started with modifying the engine

First removed the rockers on top of the cilinders and I am replacing them for somewhat more detailed rockers and

to be continued

Found replacement parts for the threadplate fenders en deck ( Accurate Armour diamond shape theadplate ) but have still have to order it.....

greetz Ronald.

Ron5 · Private

My eye is getting worn out looking? Any news on the Foster Daimler?

Willem Visser · Brigadier

Ron5 wrote:
My eye is getting worn out looking? Any news on the Foster Daimler?

Maybe it is because English is not my first language that I do not understand your reply ….. what do you mean?

I can not figure it out …...

Best regards,

Willem

PS: Ronald: nice work, you are making the model better!

Ron5 · Private

baldwin wrote:
Danny
Shouldn't be too long,assembling another one and third time taking pic's for the instructions!!!
Keep an eye on my website.

I am sorry, my question should have included a quote from the post I was referring to.

My eye was getting worn out watching the website

Willem Visser · Brigadier

Oke. Now I understand. Thanks!
Willem

Danny69 · Corporal

fantastic thank you.

jch_in_uk · Captain

SMK wrote:
Continued with the kit .........
I made some modifications on the roof and springs of the trackrollers
I replace the plastic corrugated roofpart with a metal one made of a can of coke

I used the plastic part to get the right corrugated shape
I first had to heat the material before i could get it in the right shape.
and then finished the roof part. later i wil put some rolled up tarpaulins to the sides of the roof

greetz Ronald

I have been thinking about the roof on the Holt, does anyone have a clear photo of the roof from above (or a tractor on it's side!).

I am doubting if the roof would be a single piece of corrugated iron, it would, like anything else I've seen constructed from that material, be made up from 3' (990mm) sections, so there would be noticable overlapping joints along the roof. That is 3' across the corrugations, though the lenghts can vary.

jh

-- Edited by jch_in_uk on Wednesday 22nd of August 2018 01:46:11 PM

cduckworth · Sergeant

I’m about 2/3 into building this kit and as others have commented lots of heavy mold lines to remove, flash and sink holes. The instructions in several places leave you wondering if the illustrator actually tried building the kit using their instructions. Especially where parts go for the engine several arrows not making sense. I used Mr Surfacer 500 and brushed a very small amount along the roof seam and used sand paper and a round file to blend it all in. I built the 8” howitzer kit first and it’s quite simple compared to the Holt model.

Am finding myself thinking during the entire Holt build ‘I hope this all fits together’ as the positive locating points for the large assemblies just aren’t there.

cduckworth · Sergeant

I’m now adding the tracks a lot of flash but the look fine after they are on 27 per side just FYI. As one builds this kit double check the front wheel parts before you glue them. The illustration is correct but the part numbers indicated are wrong.

cduckworth · Sergeant

Good luck with your build; while I had all the parts the vertical push rods had one broken off and the other cracked in half. I send a photo of the broken parts and a photo of the part from the parts layout and it took a couple days to get an email response. They said the replacement parts were being shipped. Being the patient guy I am, I fabricated the missing part of the push rod and made another rod out of Evergreen rod. Am sure you’re finding the instructions are a little challenging and a few parts, while correct in the drawings have the wrong part numbers. I’d use Mr Surfacer 500 and a small brush and filled in the sink marks in the roof and when dry had to go over it a second time. The next day I smoothed out the putty with Emery paper and a round file and it turned out well.

I built the 8” howitzer first and the parts are worse with that kit than the Holt. Tons of flash, sink holes and mismatched seams. I’ve built Roden’s 1/48 B.E.2c which is a well designed and detailed model so I was quite surprised by the Holt Tractor and howitzer being as bad as they were.