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Bits of Paris Gun found in Devon, U.K., allegedly.
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The article is reported as expired. Post in the Great War Forum says that a cartridge case turned up in a dump

of old military equipment on Dartmoor. The case is believed to be from the Paris gun - if so it would be about 

1 meter long. I think the concensus of authors of works on the Paris Gun is that the guns were returned

to Germany and scrapped before the Armistice.

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How inconsiderate. It was there this morning. Anyway: " An ex-Royal Navy gunner has discovered remnants of an extremely rare gun from World War One in a yard full of military paraphernalia on Dartmoor. Ian Chatterton, a member of staff at Trinity Marine, made the discovery when tidying a 'quiet corner of the yard'."

That's all I know. I bow to your superior . . . etc.



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The article showed a picture of a cartridge case.
Supposedly identified as casing number 100.

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That's interesting - the projectiles were numbered and had to be fired in order since the bore gradually increased as the gun wore, I had read the propellant loads

were increased as well but it could be that there were graduated cartridge cases as well.

Thinking about it the fate of the Paris guns may be an inference based on the Allied Control Commission failing to find any sign of the Paris guns after the war.

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Charlie

 



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The WW2 21cm K12E also used numbered (splined) shells. Possibly therefore numbered cartridges also. It certainly used cartridges rather than bag charges. One was discovered by British forces in Holland, destroyed by the retreating Germans as it could not be recovered across the Scheldt. the second gun had earlier returned to Germany for repair.

Assuming this to be correct, it would seem more likely that the cartridge discovered is from that wrecked 21 cm K12. Of course, knowing the neck calibre would help.

But the number could be entirely spurious. A later display or inventory number, perhaps.

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Certainly sounds like a reasonable explanation.

Herbert Jäger in his book on WW1 German Artillery makes the point that the cartridge case used on the Paris Gun for obturation

was "reduced to a slag of molten brass by the burning of so much powder" (p.175) .

So, if the cartridge found has been fired it certainly would not be from the Paris Gun.

The Paris Gun cartridges apparently were reused from the naval 28cm SK gun so would have a significantly larger diameter than the

projectile.

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Charlie

 



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